Alternative To Lacquer

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:59 am

In a former industry, I used to use a product called Coricone 1700 to seal and preserve non-ferrous metals... IE aluminum, brass, and copper for medical and marine applications. The material is very thin and can be wiped on instead of spraying. The end result is a finish that appears to be raw but doesn't tarnish.. and doesn't have near the thickness of common lacquer. We used it on aluminum as a replacement for anodizing. Does anyone on the forum have any experience using this product on musical instruments?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:19 am

No, but I'd love to hear more, beause I'm one of those "fools" who stripped the lacquer off of my bell because I thought that having 'paint' on it deadened the sound, and swore I could hear a difference... I've got a lot of vintage horns, too, without any finish on them

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:54 am

OK... I've been pondering trying this stuff for a couple of months and have been searching for a local user to sponge a pint or so off of. I finally 'bit the bullet' and purchased a gallon from the manufacturer. By the time the cost of the material, the freight, and the 'hazardous material surcharge' was compiled, I now have about $120 bucks involved in this little experiment. I anyone wants to have a look at the material specifications, you can do so at http://www.corrotherm.com. I'll post the results here and on my web site as infromation is available.

scottw · Post by **scottw** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:17 pm

Dan, you might want to re-check that link--it doesn't work. Sounds interesting, though!

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:22 pm

TubaTinker wrote:anyone wants to have a look at the material specifications, you can do so at http://www.carrotherm.com.

Or try http://www.corrotherm.com/coricone.htm

Interesting. I'm trying Maas Metal Protector - ordered some of their polish on-line, after a lengthy and futile search for it locally, and got a bottle of Metal Protector while I was at it. Probably nowhere near as effective as Coricone, but cheaper and easier to remove. If nothing else, application of this stuff helps clean off the polish residue.

tubamirum · Post by **tubamirum** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:15 pm

I have had very nice results with metal wax. I put it on the logo only of a silver plated horn and checked it 6 months later, the difference was very obvious, raw brass the same. metalwax.com

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:29 pm

Sorry... as Donn already pointed out, ... the correct url for the Coricone 1700 company is http://www.corrotherm.com. Follow the 'Coricone 1700' link on the left of the page. I corrected my original post.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:07 pm

OK, guys... I purchased a gallon of Coricone 1700. The formulation seems to be the same as the stuff I used in a medical industry 25 years ago to replace anodizing. I've coated a Conn alto sax I just rebuilt. I also finished half of a piece of tubing about 3" long that I am going to carry in my pocket for a couple of weeks to try to get some feel for the durability. I figure if it'll survive clinking around with keys and change and some handling, it ought to be good enough to try on something more important... like a tuba. I'll post again in a couple of weeks.

Carroll · Post by **Carroll** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:27 pm

Dan,

Is that a 3" piece of tubing in your pocket, or...

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:10 am

bloke wrote:
Carroll wrote:Dan,

Is that a 3" piece of tubing in your pocket, or...
nothing...nothing at all...

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Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:24 am

TubaTinker wrote:
bloke wrote:
Carroll wrote:Dan,

Is that a 3" piece of tubing in your pocket, or...
nothing...nothing at all...

<img src="http://tinypic.com/f3dzir.jpg">

Gentlemen, this is no time to "chicken out" ...

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:48 pm

I suppose someone is going to go blind if this frivolity continues.....

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:08 pm

Chuck Jackson wrote:I suppose someone is going to go blind if this frivolity continues.....

If anyone starts talking about submarines and seamen, I'm outta here!

Cowgo · Post by **Cowgo** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:20 pm

Anyone who lives, or has lived, in Topeka knows this is the truth and not a set up for a bad joke. Sometime this high school football season the Topeka High Trojans will stop the Seaman Vikings at Hummer Park.

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:52 pm

God have mercy upon our souls........Man the life rafts........Women and Children first..........

Chuck"who should have seen this cummi....er make that coming"Jackson

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:41 pm

Goodness, guys! It's just a 3" long piece of 1/2" brass tubing... nothing to get excited about. I wonder what kind of reaction there would have been if I had said I had a 3" diameter piece of tubing in my pocket

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:34 pm

Well, the first question some might have is: Can you cook?

Chuck"who doesn't belong to THAT category but has been a musician LONG enough to know SOMEONE had to ask it"Jackson

Tubaryan12 · Post by **Tubaryan12** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:01 pm

Chuck Jackson wrote:Well, the first question some might have is: Can you cook?

Cook?...he wouldn't even have to work

Tubaryan "there are rich widows everywhere" 12

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:43 pm

Tubaryan12 wrote:"there are rich widows everywhere"

That's no joke!! Our Dixie group often plays for breakfast at some local retirement villages. Most of the time it's 20 old ladies and 2 old men! It just goes to show who's killing who.... doesn't it?!?!

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:38 am

TubaTinker wrote: It just goes to show who's killing who.... doesn't it?!?!

Yeah, the gentlemen carrying blackjacks in their pockets!

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Alternative To Lacquer

Alternative To Lacquer

non lacquer finish