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Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:54 pm

It's not your problem and by getting worked up about it, you're just giving the idiot what he most wants--attention.

Be an adult and play what's on your stand to the best of your ability and ignore the fools. Your problem person will tire of not getting the attention he craves and he'll either leave or the conductor will ask him to.

If this is a small group, like a quintet, the dynamics are different since there's no conductor. There, it's best to discuss things out in the open with all parties present.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:13 pm

tuben wrote:I was just wondering if anyone else on here has had to deal with prima donnas like that and how you dealt with them.

In my experience, they're usually known as "trumpet players", and they can always do things better than you can...

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:37 pm

windshieldbug wrote:In my experience, they're usually known as "trumpet players", and they can always do things better than you can...

Not only that, but they dress better, have better-looking girlfriends and drive faster cars...

Daryl Fletcher · Post by **Daryl Fletcher** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:53 pm

windshieldbug wrote:In my experience, they're usually known as "trumpet players", and they can always do things better than you can...

I don't know anything about Robert's situation besides what he just told us, but I have to wonder if we may have stumbled upon some truth here.

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:00 pm

tuben wrote:In some geographic area of the band people were occasionally playing MUCH louder than the rest of the group, to the point of making ugly sounds. The conductor stops, makes a comment about it being too loud and ugly.

Without being there, I would wager a guess that it was the trombones. Many trombone players have two volumes - loud (p-mp) and God-awful-blatting (mf and higher).

Joe Baker · Post by **Joe Baker** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:05 pm

My guess: Percussion.

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Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:41 pm

Joe Baker wrote:My guess: Percussion.

Loud, for sure, but ugly? How could you tell the difference?

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:43 pm

Saxophones, no question. It's a no-brainer in my eyes.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:29 pm

Biggs wrote:Saxophones, no question. It's a no-brainer in my eyes.

I don't think so. Saxophones can be wrestled to the ground, therefore it IS possible to 'operate' one less loudly.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:33 pm

tuben wrote:PS No one has correctly guessed the offending instrument, and that's all I'll say about that.

Clarinets are not considered instruments. WMD's maybe.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:22 pm

Hmm, must be the Eb bimbonifono:

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:24 pm

windshieldbug wrote:Clarinets are not considered instruments. WMD's maybe.

They'd sure be one of the usual suspects, from my experience. It's my least favorite sound in a band, a bunch of clarinets playing too loud at the top of their range. But I haven't seen them get mouthy like that, they just don't seem to be aware that under these circumstances it isn't an underpowered instrument and has to be throttled back.

Of course, it's difficult to play high and soft. These players may not be up to it, eh?

GC · Post by GC » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:09 pm

I hope the director simply put them out later on. Sometimes jackasses want a huge public scene, and it's better not to give them what they want. Defiance in an ensemble situation is a recipe for disaster. The director in one group I'm in had to give someone the boot last week, and the band is all the better for it.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:39 pm

bloke wrote:solution: Only play for dough. That sh!t doesn't happen when livelihoods are involved

(guess you don't have profeshonall conductors involved, then)

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:23 pm

So far no one has guessed the right instrument (hint, not a woodwind).
I was one of the many shocked folks there on thursday. Strange too because I really like the guy and think he is a great player and very respectful of others. Oh well,

I just hope it clears up before the NABBA competition (another hint) in a couple of weeks.
Bill

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:44 pm

Tubadork wrote:I just hope it clears up before the NABBA competition (another hint) in a couple of weeks.
Bill

So that narrows it down to a blattweasel or an Eb soprano shrieker...

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:06 pm

not eb, not sure what a blatweasel is.
Bill

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:18 pm

Tubadork wrote:not eb, not sure what a blatweasel is.
Bill

Old name for an alto horn. So the guy is on Bb cornet. We can always afford to shoot a few of those guys.

Jedi Master · Post by **Jedi Master** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:50 pm

I hope it wasn't a tuba player!

UDELBR · Post by **UDELBR** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:55 am

bloke wrote:solution: Only play for dough. That sh!t doesn't happen when livelihoods are involved.

If only that were true...

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