For You Civil War Buffs

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:55 pm

I've been building some 'Fake' over-the-shoulder horns for a local Civil War Reunion band. He asked if I could build a repiano (Eb) OTS.... and .... here it is!

It's cut from a Bach/Bundy cornet. Another cornet is pictured in both views to give some idea of the modifications that were required.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:40 am

Cool, Dan! But wouldn't a more accurate reproduction have rotary valves? Time to hack up a horn maybe?

Daryl Fletcher · Post by **Daryl Fletcher** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:02 am

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:13 am

I took my 60's Olds Ambassador cornet to Schmidt's Music Store in Pensacola and David Schmidt told me it wasn't worth repairing. It had been in a barroom fire and the mouthpiece was welded tight stuck.
I found a Olds trumpet also of 60's vintage on you-know-what-Bay for less than $200 with nice finish-a good player and the mouthpiece will come out.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:56 am

the elephant wrote:Another cornet, meaning an Olds Ambassador of about 1955 vintage?

Good eyes, Wade! The 'regular' cornet in the pictures is indeed an Olds Ambassador (Fullerton) horn of probably around that year.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:13 am

Chuck(G) wrote:Cool, Dan! But wouldn't a more accurate reproduction have rotary valves? Time to hack up a horn maybe?

I know you already know this, Chuck... and are just joshing a bit. I've thought about butchering a French horn for some of the smaller Civil War fakes.... But others on the board may not be aware that the piston valve as we know it today was around during the Civil War... but was not as popular as the TARV (top action rotary valve).

Here's a statement from one of the band instrument journals.... "The PÃ©rinet valve is named after FranÃ§ois PÃ©rinet, the Parisian who invented this type of piston valve in 1838 and patented it the following year. The valve loops are arranged in such a way that the inlet tubing is positioned on a different level than the outlet tubing. The piston is held at rest by a spring, which is placed either on top (top-sprung) or below (bottom-sprung) the piston. The PÃ©rinet valve is now the standard for trumpets in most countries (except Germany and Austria), and is often simply called the 'piston valve'."

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:35 am

Then again, someone's going a step further... this one rportedly has a Bach 37 bell,,,