euph in C?

circusboy · Post by **circusboy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:58 pm

I saw an ad recently for a (no longer made) Miraphone Kaiser Bariton in C. Sounds like it'd be an easier switch, fingering-wise, for CC tuba players.

Anybody ever blow one of these or one like it?

Is it possible to cut a Bb euph to C? Anyone done that?

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:30 pm

Amati used to make a C euph. I don't know if they still do. I recall hearing about intonation problems with it.

jacobg · Post by **jacobg** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:37 am

I have a 1930's Austrian 3 valve oval euphonium that is so sharp it plays quite in tune in B! It would be a good candidate to cut to C, if anyone wants to take it off my hands.

Ace · Post by **Ace** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:42 am

Amati still shows a C/Bb euphonium in their catalog. It's an upright bell piston horn, 3+1 configuration.

At one time, I owned a very well-built Cerveny upright euponium in C, four rotary valves, with extra tuning slide to put the horn in Bb.

http://www.amati.cz/english/production/ ... p_534g.htm

The horn shipped with a ridiculous 11 CL mouthpiece which really stunted the low range. I put a European shank 3 G on it and that opened things up, darkened the tone, and cleaned up some intonation problems. The fit and finish on that horn were first rate.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:17 am

Weril offers a 3-valve euphonium in C, the H612. Never seen one; never played one.

djwesp · Post by **djwesp** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:37 am

Chuck(G) wrote:Weril offers a 3-valve euphonium in C, the H612. Never seen one; never played one.

If it is like the one I played in Brazil christmas before last, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

circusboy · Post by **circusboy** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:28 pm

I understand your point about CC fingerings, etc., but don't 99.9% of CC players start out/learn on BBb?

Well, Doc, I guess I'm in that .1% that didn't. I first learned Eb fingerings, then F, now C.

Still wondering if anyone's already cut a Bb to C, how it went, what it cost . . . .

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:33 pm

circusboy wrote:Well, Doc, I guess I'm in that .1% that didn't. I first learned Eb fingerings, then F, now C.

So what's the problem? Lots of euphers don't read BC, only Bb TC,

And your Eb BC fingerings are the first cousin to that (add 3 flats to the key signature and play the TC euph as Eb BC). No need to transpose.

Z-Tuba Dude · Post by **Z-Tuba Dude** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:36 pm

circusboy wrote:Still wondering if anyone's already cut a Bb to C, how it went, what it cost . . . .

I doubt that you will find anybody who has "made the cut"...there is not as much of a market for C euphoniums, as CC tubas.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:47 pm

Hey! A C euph would make a great companion to a C melody saxophone!

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:29 pm

Weril Makes a C euph (only 3 valves though)