Name this Mirafone F tuba

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Name this Mirafone F tuba

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Can anyone identify this tuba? I know it's a Mirafone F tuba, but I'm not sure what model number it is.

I don't think it's a 180, but I'm not sure if it's a 181, or something completely different. From the serial number, it's from about 1980.

It looks great, but a little "different" (long skinny valve paddles and it looks like the 5th valve is after the 4th...usually not the case for rotary horns, right?)

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Are you absolutely sure its an F? Looks like the tenor tuba.
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That looks like an older Miraphone upright kaiser baritone with 5 valves.
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Yup. Kaiser baryton (as in large tenor tuba) with an upright bell. If it's an F, then the handle and latches on the case are abnormally large.

Looks to me like a 12-inch bell and a height about 2-1/2 times that. An F tuba that size would need another full loop of the outer branches, not to mention longer valve slides.

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Notice that the 5th valve is "on the bottom" rather than first in line where the leadpipe enters the valve cluster. I've never seen a Miraphone F tuba with this arrangement -- this is typically reserved for the "quint" valve on a 6-valve F, when it is located down by the tuning slide. All of the Miraphone 5V F tubas I have seen have the 5th valve above 1,2,3,4.

You will see the identical valve cluster in use on their oval and bell front baritone horns at their website:

http://www.miraphone.de/produkte_bild.a ... B07000.jpg

This is most likely a Bb "Baritone" (tenor tuba).

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Thanks everyone...mystery solved. I knew something looked weird, but while looking at these pictures quickly (while at work), I couldn't put my finger on it.

Looks like an older 5-valve version of this:

http://www.miraphone.de/produkte_bild.a ... 000200.jpg

Still cool, but not what I'm looking for. If anyone's interested, I'll let you know who's selling it.

Thanks!
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bort wrote: Still cool, but not what I'm looking for. If anyone's interested, I'll let you know who's selling it.

Thanks!


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