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i know this is considered a "beginner" horn, but I love 10j's. they are really an all purpose tuba. they have a good sound in all registers, they can play loud with ease, and easy/lightweight to carry around to gigs. I have seen old photos of jazz bands and quintets from the 50's and 60's, where they play on 10J's. I'm thinking about buying a good used one just to have.
They do sound pretty good with a deep funnel mouthpiece, like a standard 120S Conn Helleberg.
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If you ever see a King Super 20 trumpet
in silverplate serial #330XXX,
please let me know!
What Conn said about it in 1961:
"Special lightweight model. Extremely responsive, precision intonation, with a beautifully rich symphonic tone. Highly responsive and balanced in all registers. Three valves. Lustre-Conn finish over polished brass, or Tarnish-Shield over satin-finish silver plate with brilliant silver bell interior. Bore 0.695". Bell up. Bell Diameter 18". Weight 15 lbs 12 oz. "
Willson 3100 FA5 (2009)
Conn 20J (1953)
Conn 40K (1921)
Conn 10J (1970)
10Js are wonderful little horns, but they do have flimsy bells. Another thing is that double wrapped 3rd valve slide, which stays full of water. All in all, it is a GREAT little horn! Good luck finding one!
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Tuba Five Emeritus
I see that. Does the whole double wrap thing come out? Would be a drag to only have one of the sides come out. The King 1140 I had carried the bulk of the third valve tubing up top so it didn't hang down in the way like it would on this 10J if it wasn't doubled back on itself. If only one side came out, the player would have to do some weird sort of dance to spin the water out. I usually pull the slide out to dump the water. Got into the habit while playing French horn.
I had one that I had picked up at the flea market for $20. It was missing the third valve. I ended up selling it to a thrift store several years ago because all the deadbeat repair techs in this area (the entire Texas Panhandle) were too lazy to try to get this old beast playing again. I finally got to play one though. Our local Shriner band has one. If I ever find one just laying around I'll be hard pressed not to try to buy it.
The wind is as the air, only pushier.
If I could find a tuba like this one I'd take it any day. 10J's are great horns at a good price range. I played a 10J in 7th grade band and took it home as my high school practice horn..played on it 5 years..to this day it is one of the best tubas i ever played
I am now the very happy owner of a rescued 10j courtesy of The Tubameister, Mr. Lee Stofer. I took a road trip out to his shop on Wednesday (separate thread) and picked it up.
These horns are often reviled by some, especially the "high skool" crowd, but I think they, like many other 3 bangers out there, deserve a lot more respect than they get. This is, a 15.75 lbs, a lightweight horn, but is capable of a nice deep tuba sound. It's very easy to hold and play. The bell is 18", it stands 32" high, and the bore is .695". Lee did a tremendous job in removing the dents and making the valves glide like butter. My 10j has obvious battle scars in terms of scratches and lacquer wear but still looks pretty decent. This is a great horn to use for practice, travel, dixie, strolling, Salvation Army kettle playing, and even some small ensemble work. It does have some limits as a three banger, but what's life without some challenges.
I think part of the reason for the bad rep on these horns is that so many have been destroyed due to school abuse. Notwithstanding, finding one of these in decent condition, or having Lee, Dan, Joe, Matt, or Dan O. fix one for you is well worth the effort. As always, IMHO.
I love these; I've been keeping an eye out for a "totalled" one, or one missing valves, to convert to front action for use on actual gigs. Great sounding intruments...
Anyone ever chop one to CC?
Didn't one of Sam Pilafian's former teachers (a woman in Florida) get pictured with one of these for her orcherstra photo?
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