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Craziest Horn
Check this out. Anybody know what this is or where I can play one?
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Re: Craziest Horn
I think it's a York Eb or F that someone decided didn't have enough valves so they rigged up some pipes and and connected an Eb sousaphone or tuba valve section without making them 1-3, 2-3, flat 1... ect. combinations.josh_kaprun wrote:Check this out. Anybody know what this is or where I can play one?
It defiantly looks like it was cut down... cheaply. Notice the lack of ferrules on the tuba.
Or maybe it's the ultimate instrument for someone who still hasn't made up their mind for whether he likes front action or top action valves.
Anyway, it is indeed very cool looking and I wouldn't mind giving it a toot.
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It definitely looks defiantly cut.Tubaing wrote:[
It defiantly looks like it was cut down... cheaply.
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Dang! Have a gander at how they cut the bottom bow! Talk about 'cut and paste'!TubaRay wrote:It definitely looks defiantly cut.Tubaing wrote:[
It defiantly looks like it was cut down... cheaply.
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What are ferrules? I keep seeing this word and I am curious. Thanks!Tubaing wrote:Notice the lack of ferrules on the tuba.
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They are those rings that connect the tubes together. Example: Bell to bottom bow.TexTuba wrote:What are ferrules? I keep seeing this word and I am curious. Thanks!Tubaing wrote:Notice the lack of ferrules on the tuba.

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Ferrules are the best conventional way to make sure the joints are air tight and can withstand the inevitable bangs and bumps that a tuba will get without the solder joints weakening and leaking.
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Re: Craziest Horn
Regardless of the workmanship, I don't think anybody here is really getting how cool this horn is. Why can't we all just be positive and appreciate a neat idea for once?
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I agree with Bob on this one.Bob1062 wrote:I am kinda ticked off that someone chopped up (not referring to the valve set) a pretty clean cool vintage horn.
When I muck around with an instrument, I do it on something that has little or no value and try to give it a good use.
Maybe this was just a cheap and relativity easy way to add a "1-3 combo" valve with minimal work.
But, I also think if it can play reasonably well, it'd be a blast to play.
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Re: Craziest Horn
What you don't seem to understand is that one man's cool is another's dumb.josh_kaprun wrote:Regardless of the workmanship, I don't think anybody here is really getting how cool this horn is. Why can't we all just be positive and appreciate a neat idea for once?
I find the horn to be ridiculous, and not "cool" at all. Really, what's the point of having two valve sections? A neat idea? Sorry, a modern display of "over-the-top" excessiveness, yes...but not such a neat idea. I wouldn't show up at a gig with that beast, that's for sure.
It's funny you think that "nobody here is getting it." Why can't we all just accept that other people have different opinions for once?
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Josh, without being disdainful of you opinion, why do you think it's cool? What do you like about it?josh_kaprun wrote:Regardless of the workmanship, I don't think anybody here is really getting how cool this horn is. Why can't we all just be positive and appreciate a neat idea for once?
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A big NASA decal on the bell would be cool. Really cool.
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Except, of course, if one plays with instruments tuned in equal temperament, where the 100 cent differences are not in 'just' harmonics. Hate to tell you, but no matter what, nothing is "tuned at the factory"...pejaberg wrote:What would be really cool is if you could get your hands on one of Adolphe Sax's six valve horns...no need for valve combinations (whole step, half step, 1.5 steps, 2 steps, 2.5 steps, & 3 steps...or something like that)...but impractical (way too heavy to comfortably play from what I here)! Anyone with some good pics of a Sax horn scanned in or digitized? That would be a good point of discussion.
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I just think that this horn is an interesting idea. We see 6-valve F tubas all the time, this is just a radically different take one. Furthermore, if I had to guess, I'd say that it's probably in Eb, and the only other 6 valve Eb I've ever even seen a picture of is the one on the Thein website.
As to how "good" the horn actually is, I'm pretty sure that whoever it is in the picture is the only person who could tell us the answer to that one. I was not trying to imply how it plays one way or the other. If I ever get to see this puppy in person, though, you can bet your socks that I'm going to ask to play it.
As to how "good" the horn actually is, I'm pretty sure that whoever it is in the picture is the only person who could tell us the answer to that one. I was not trying to imply how it plays one way or the other. If I ever get to see this puppy in person, though, you can bet your socks that I'm going to ask to play it.
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Sumner Erickson Unified Performance 32.5 E Mouthpiece
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One day the owner of the horn can make some good money selling the bell at least.
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Idea - okay (ish). Better to add BBb valves to an Eb, or CC valves to an F. Hold down one and three, and you can use the other set for a complete chromatic compass.Bob1062 wrote:I think the neatness level is just OK. I am kinda ticked off that someone chopped up (not referring to the valve set) a pretty clean cool vintage horn.
I've always been more of a minimalist guy, though. I think 2 rotaries on the side woulda been sweet.
But I agree - chopping up a beautiful tuba like this is a criminal act (IMHO).
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Actually, that's a narrow-belled trombone. Here's an example:
http://a266.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/im ... ef03b1.jpg" target="_blank
Or here:
http://www.yeodoug.com/resources/humor/ ... ll_tbn.jpg" target="_blank
I know the National Museum in Vermillion has one as well...
J.c.S.
http://a266.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/im ... ef03b1.jpg" target="_blank
Or here:
http://www.yeodoug.com/resources/humor/ ... ll_tbn.jpg" target="_blank
I know the National Museum in Vermillion has one as well...
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Instructor of Tuba & Euphonium, Cleveland State University
Principal Tuba, Firelands Symphony Orchestra
President, Variations in Brass
http://www.jcsherman.net
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