Question about Dillon mpc.'s

[The Jackson]

How does the naming system of the "Dillon" name mouthpieces describe the mouthpiece's size? I have read that the "B" at the end of the model denotes that the 'piece has a bronze core, but what about the number + other letter? If you could comment on other aspects of them (cup shape, bore, rim shape, etc.) that would be extremely helpful!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


-Jackson

[Tubaryan12]

I don't know if the numbers actually mean anything, but if you pm me your email address, I can send you a copy of the letter that I got from Matt with the specs. I couldn't get the list to print correctly here.

[Matt Walters]

The "B" at the end of the model number (i.e. F2B) means the mouthpiece was made out of the heavier Bronze before it was silver plated. That gives you the benefit of a heavy weight mouthpiece that doesn't look like a boat anchor.

[cjk]

How does the naming system of the "Dillon" name mouthpieces describe the mouthpiece's size? I have read that the "B" at the end of the model denotes that the 'piece has a bronze core, but what about the number + other letter? If you could comment on other aspects of them (cup shape, bore, rim shape, etc.) that would be extremely helpful!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-Jackson

This is what I heard or read on old tubenet and retained, I really don't have any first hand knowledge of this. The G and F models interest me. The H (Helleberg) and C (Chief) models don't, so I don't know much about them.

The Dillon line is not presently made. They were produced by Terry Warburton for Dillon music.

The G models were based on an old Geib (nothing like a Schilke or Laskey Geib) that belongs to Scott Mendoker. The rim was changed to something that Mr. Mendoker found to be more comfortable. It's wider and rounder than the original Geib.

There's a G1, G2, G3, M1C, and G5. The M1C was Mr Mendoker's favorite (else it would have been called the G4).

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When I "designed" the M1C, what I wanted was a mouthpiece that could work on CC tubas - from 3/4 thru 6/4. It's based on an old Geib of mine with altered rim and throat/backbore.

The entire line of Geib/Dillon mouthpieces INCLUDING the M1C have the same rim, cup diameter and depth. Where they differ is at the point where the bottom of the cup drops into the hole.

And the F1 and F2 have the same rim and cup diameter as the Geibs. The F1 has the depth of a PT - 64 and the F2 is slightly deeper.

The F1 and F2 have the same rim as the G series and M1C. The F1 is similar in depth to a PT-64. The F2 is a bit deeper, it might have a similar cup to a PT-72?

The G5 has a smaller throat and backbore than the rest of the G models.

As others have mentioned, the "B" stands for a mouthpiece with a bronze core instead of brass.

If the shank is not stamped "L", they have American shanks (.520"). If stamped "L", that stands for Large shank (.550") which is larger than Euro (.530").

Hope this helps,

Christian

[The Jackson]

Thank you all! This is extremely helpful!

I'm looking at these mouthpieces on the Dillon Music and Baltimore Brass Co. websites and I'm astounded at how inexpensive they are! These, especially the bronze models, look very unique and I'm definitely checking them out.

Thanks again!!

-Jackson

[Donn]

I'm looking at these mouthpieces on the Dillon Music and Baltimore Brass Co. websites and I'm astounded at how inexpensive they are! These, especially the bronze models, look very unique and I'm definitely checking them out.

I imagine they would be more expensive if they weren't used?

I have an F1B and an S3. Both relatively shallow, rounded rim, cup shape somewhere in between conical & bowl. The F1B is a large diameter by my standards, and thanks to the Bronze is well suited to use as a projectile. The S3 is smaller, and very easy to get used to. Someone else should knock this one off, if the Dillon line isn't coming back.

[iiipopes]

Likewise. Send me a PM and I'll send you the spec printout sheets on for Dillon tuba mouthpieces.

[The Jackson]

I'm looking at the G1B for "big horn" stuff since that kind of cup profile seems to work on the horn I'm using, but I'd like to try something with a small iner rim diameter.

After a lesson today with my teacher, I am interested in another, smaller mouthpiece for "small horn" stuff. I'm checking out the F1B which might be nice since the G and the F have the same rim shapes.

[iiipopes]

Caveat: a lot of the Dillon mouthpieces were actually manufactured by Terry Warburton before he had his shop fire and had to rebuild. As I understand, after a hiatus to get his main line of modular trumpet mouthpieces back up to full speed, there still may be very limited tuba mouthpiece production. So don't look for a new one any time soon, although used Dillon mouthpieces do come up from time to time.