Music notation

[acjcf2]

I am in need of some help with a dynamic notation ( c.f.).
I assume the f. is for forte however, the c. has me puzzled.

Yeah, I know what assume means.

I also need some advise on counting/playing in3/2 time.
Is 3/2 time essentially cut 3/4 time as 2/2 would be cut common time to 4/4 time?

I don't recall seeing these notations way back in high school.

Thanks,
Jim

[imperialbari]

Not to be rough against one of our newer posters, but the c.f. notation rings no bell with me, and I have read quite a few scores from many styles and periods. Please provide a scan or a photography of this notation in its musical context.

I am not sure about how to cut an uneven number of beats. 3/2 is a triple time which is counted with a beat to each half note. If very slow, two beats per half note: 2+2+2, but never 3+3. In rarer cases it might be fast with one beat to the whole bar.

Klaus

[acjcf2]

No offense taken Kluas, I just returned to playing tuba this past February for the first time since 1973. Besides 29 years in the fire service and 4 before that in the Marines, I can take some heat.

The dynamic notation c.f. is what is used in the Dale Elmshauser arraingement of Ein Feste Burg (A Mighty Fortress...). Our church brass choir is playing this hymn for Reformation Sunday. I know what forte is but was puzzled about the c.

As to the 3/2 time, I have three half notes per measure and was curious how to count this. I am playing as a cut 3/4 time and just wanted to make sure I am correct in my thinking.

Thanks,
Jim

[imperialbari]

That tune confirms the Cantus firmus suggestion.

Klaus

[DonShirer]

So does the Harvard Dictionary of Music.

[pierso20]

Interesting point brought up -

That 6/4 should NOT be conducted in a 3 pattern...wrong feel. It is more of a 6/8 sort of feel - triple.

3/2 = conducted in 3

HOWEVER, "cut-time" is DIFFERENT than 2/2 - at least in many modern applications.

2/2 indicates feel more than tempo - which is why there are often SLOW passages that appear in 2/2

The same goes for 3/2 or 4/2 (which are meters that I extensively use).

[acjcf2]

As fortune would have it, we will be playing the comtemparary version of the hymn in 4/4 time.

My congregation would have a time with the more traditional German version (3/2) of A Mighty Fortress...

I appreciate everyones input. I continue to learn a great deal about the instrument and music theory on this site.

Cheers,
Jim