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Postby TheTuba » Thu May 17, 2018 10:18 pm

uhhhhhhhhhhh

I did good in auditions, would give 8.5/10 in scales, 9.5/10 in chromatic, and a solid 10/10 in etude.

BUTTTTTT
sightreading was bull****

Reason was that they had same sight reading for ALL instruments(smart right?), So the tuba was the same as flute.

Let me just say that I cried on the inside when I saw it.

Offbeat eighth, dotted eighths, 5 measures of 16th notes w/ accidentals.

Keep in mind they give you "30 seconds" (Pretty sure she gave me 5 lol) to look at this monstrosity.

I gave up on figuring out the rhythms, and just focused on giving the the best sound I-can-ever-make right into their ears.


I sounded pretty good I think!
But, some seniors gonna probably do better than me and get 1st. Aiming for 2nd or 3rd right now.


From now on I pledge to do sight reading with only 30 seconds of time to look at it.

Thank you for reading all of the rambling.
I will Update tomorrow once results come out.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Ken Crawford » Thu May 17, 2018 11:09 pm

TheTuba wrote:I will Update tomorrow once results come out.


I haven't felt this much anticipation since the Lost finale.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Mark Finley » Thu May 17, 2018 11:12 pm

No such thing as BS sightreading as long as everyone s seeing it for the first time and everyone you're competing against is reading the same thing as you.

Good players WANT audition music to be hard, they WANT sightreading to be hard, that way they get to show what they cane do.

As a teacher, one thing that annoys me is an audition process so easy that everyone sounds the same.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby bloke » Thu May 17, 2018 11:41 pm

sight-reading skills are related to...

- familiarity with commonly-encountered patterns in all encountered western music keys, modalities, and other western harmonic systems based on intervals-other-than-thirds, rows of intervalic patterns, and other bases.
- an ability to identify organization, patterns, and relationships whether or not a key or time signature exists
- an ability to multitask and, specifically, an ability to read a few beats ahead and process that while playing what was already read

It's a handy skill set, and is valued by those who hire musicians for "reading" gigs - in particular, choir directors (with their very limited budgets) value sight-reading skills, and remember who and who does not possess particularly good sight-reading skills. If you've ever bought tickets for one of those (inane, but whatever) video game full-symphony-orchestra concerts, each tune is only read through once, there is a dinner break, and then the show. Many symphony orchestra "pops" concerts are performed after only one rehearsal, and with some of the music not rehearsed at all:
"Does anyone need to look at 'Blah-blah'?"
(silence, because everyone wants to go home and take a nap)
'Blah-blah' (which - yes - did not need to be rehearsed) does not get rehearsed.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Three Valves » Fri May 18, 2018 7:38 am

I always played my sight reading assignments REAL SLOW!!

It annoyed me that the 1st tuba was technically better than me but sounded like ****.

Whereas, my sight reading and scales suffered, but I had World Class Sound!!

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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby tubapix » Fri May 18, 2018 8:36 am

When I was in high school and the band prepared for concert contest or all state/county/district... the director pulled ALL of the music cabinets into the band room and we read as many as we could in on hour for days. I got real good at sight reading real fast. To this day I would prefer to sightread a concert rather than hammer the same tunes over and over.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Northernlb » Fri May 18, 2018 8:48 am

It is pretty common for sight reading to match across instrumentation. Just because you play the tuba, which in turn plays mostly whole notes and half notes in band music, does not mean there is not an expectation that the musician should be of the same high quality no matter what instrument they are playing on.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby bloke » Fri May 18, 2018 9:21 am

oh yeah...and the "same as flute" (or whatever) thing...
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby windshieldbug » Fri May 18, 2018 9:46 am

bloke wrote:Many symphony orchestra "pops" concerts are performed after only one rehearsal, and with some of the music not rehearsed at all:
"Does anyone need to look at 'Blah-blah'?"
(silence, because everyone wants to go home and take a nap)
'Blah-blah' (which - yes - did not need to be rehearsed) does not get rehearsed.


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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby bloke » Fri May 18, 2018 10:01 am

bloke wrote:- an ability to multitask and, specifically, an ability to read a few beats ahead and process that while playing what was already read


When walking or operating a vehicle, the person who is moving along is not looking straight down. Rather, they are looking ahead as they move along.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Tom » Fri May 18, 2018 10:13 am

Band sight reading is a required element of the UIL governed "contests" in your state, so sightreading is just part of the psyche of Texas band directors. It is no surprise to me that your band director(s) include it as an element of your ensemble placement auditions at your school. http://www.uiltexas.org/music/concert-sight-reading/band-sight-reading-frequently-asked-questions

TheTuba wrote:I gave up on figuring out the rhythms, and just focused on giving the the best sound I-can-ever-make right into their ears.


Well, that's too bad...the whole point of sightreading is to see what you can do with the rhythms. Your other audition requirements (scales/etudes/whatever) should have already demonstrated your command of the instrument including the ability to make a characteristic sound. That isn't to say you should ever sound "bad," just that sightreading in particular is about rhythm more than it is about anything else. Clearly that is the point that the UIL is trying to make in requiring it at contests (see link above) which is almost certainly what your band directors are emulating.

Same music as everyone else? No surprise there (at least to me). Seems irrelevant, honestly. Often the reason why is that the sightreading is pulled out of some full band method book that includes the exact same material transposed for each instrument in the band. They pick this stuff because it easy on them to just sit and listen to each kid in the entire band play the same piece.

What bloke was saying about "reading" on the professional level is right on (if you care to really know about what happens on the professional level). Choir directors often hire musicians to perform at churches with NO rehearsal at all, just the expectation that you can play the part and stay with the rest of the group. With the local contractors in my city, it's essentially unheard of to have more than one rehearsal, and even then it's a quickie read through of the pieces. Even in the full time orchestra setting (such as where I work), pops concerts are almost always done on one or two rehearsals (very, very rare for more than that). Touring shows (like the video game ones) and those that are such-and-such pop singer with orchestra are ALWAYS done on a single rehearsal only a few hours before the concert. I don't say any that to make you feel bad, just to provide some perspective on how valuable the skill is. As one of my primary teachers would say "your ability to rhythmize is required!"
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby TheTuba » Fri May 18, 2018 8:13 pm

Sorry if I seemed a bit too pissed off about the sight reading. In past JH auditions, sight reading was different, and I assumed it would stay the same way in HS. of course, I learned me lesson on that one....

On a Different note (haha get it)




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pretty sure my section (2 12th graders) will be pissed at a sophomore beating them.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby bloke » Fri May 18, 2018 8:17 pm

TheTuba wrote:Sorry if I seemed a bit too pissed off about the sight reading. In past JH auditions, sight reading was different, and I assumed it would stay the same way in HS. of course, I learned me lesson on that one....

On a Different note (haha get it)




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pretty sure my section (2 12th graders) will be pissed at a sophomore beating them.


...and you've also - luckily - experienced the privilege of self-identifying one of your weaknesses.

Performers of all types - as well as all types of people who do all types of things - possess weaknesses, and the best (at whatever they do) embrace and rigorously address/remedy those weaknesses.
It's great to prevail over others (modestly), and it's even better to constantly - today - be in competition with one's own self from yesterday.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Northernlb » Fri May 18, 2018 8:56 pm

Great job, now go practice!
Speaking from experience as well freshman who beat out a senior and his brother who was a junior.

Great job and keep pushing yourself, practicing, and find yourself a private teacher if you don't have one.
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby lost » Fri May 18, 2018 9:09 pm

Ken Crawford wrote:
TheTuba wrote:I will Update tomorrow once results come out.


I haven't felt this much anticipation since the Lost finale.


Haha Ken....i believe I made my tubenet handle right after I watched the Lost finale....ahh the good old days...

In another moderating note for this thread, what auditions are these for? The thread started like we all were suppose to know what you were auditioning for...I gradually gathered from the flow of the thread these were for some type of school ensemble placement? Was this info in another thread that could have benefited from being bumped about upcoming school auditions?
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Three Valves » Fri May 18, 2018 9:12 pm

Now that the audition has been won, we need to know what tuba, mouthpiece and solo was used to update “the list!!”
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby TheTuba » Fri May 18, 2018 9:13 pm

sorry, this was a high school band placement audition.
I'll try to find other threads to bump if I have any questions ( still a bit of a newbie).
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby TheTuba » Fri May 18, 2018 9:17 pm

Three Valves wrote:Now that the audition has been won, we need to know what tuba, mouthpiece and solo was used to update “the list!!”



A pretty banged up Miraphone 186, a RT-44, and Blazhevich book #1 etude 6 was the audition material.

The most exciting part is that the HS bought 2 new Miraphones hehehehehehe................ :shock:
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Three Valves » Fri May 18, 2018 9:21 pm

Nice.

I bet the ‘rents are ecstatic!!
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Re: Band Results tmr

Postby Doc » Sun May 20, 2018 12:15 pm

Three Valves wrote: ...but I had World Class Sound!!

:tuba:


That was, of course, on a silver-plated piston 6/4 CC, not a lacquered rotary 4/4 BBb, right?
All that, plus $8.00, will get you a venti at Starbucks.
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