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Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby DouglasJB » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:33 pm

Are there any decent Chinese Piston F tubas out there? I know about the BMB F, but are there any others out there and How do they play? Looking for input from people who have tried any
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby bloke » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:36 pm

Doesn't Wisemann offer a knock-off of that Italian-made piston F tuba?
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby Rivercity Tuba » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:31 am

Eastman should have one out soon. The prototype had great pitch. When I say soon within a year.
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby DouglasJB » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:43 am

I remember talking to Chuck about it, and I completely forgot about that one.
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby Ken Crawford » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:10 am

bloke wrote:Doesn't Wisemann offer a knock-off of that Italian-made piston F tuba?


Wisemann doesn't seem to make tubas anymore. I think they've gone completely to making Melodicas and kazoos.
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:52 pm

Wessex will have out two models of piston valve F tubas in the next year, one compensated based on the British F (in both 3+1 and front piston configurations) and the other a new original design
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby DouglasJB » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:15 pm

Is there any info available for the non compensating F tuba design?
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby DouglasJB » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 pm

Is there any info available for the non compensating F tuba design?
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby MikeMason » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:47 pm

Reguarding the wisemann f tuba. A while back I emailed the U.S. distributor and he said they had several of the f tubas left. I didn’t persue it. He quoted 3890.00, that may have been wholesale.
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby bloke » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:49 pm

MikeMason wrote:Reguarding the wisemann f tuba. A while back I emailed the U.S. distributor and he said they had several of the f tubas left. I didn’t persue it .


I played the genuine Italian one two or three years ago. It wasn't the worst F tuba that I've ever played...and no, I won't mention the worst one...and no...it was not made in China...though I can think of one made in China that ran a close second...and so can Mike.
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby MikeMason » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:54 pm

There could not have been one much worse than the original firebird clone !?
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby Wyvern » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:59 pm

DouglasJB wrote:Is there any info available for the non compensating F tuba design?

Not at this stage - we have been through 5 prototypes already in the quest to perfect. Some new models work out perfect first time, while others go through much evolution before good enough to release
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby bloke » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:28 pm

I see the compensating F design as quite a challenge, based on watching others try to make them.
Those little bitty Edgware Street "Besson" instruments (1950's or 1960's...??) weren't terrible, but offered some challenges, In particular, the 8th particular was flat (well, some of the same eight partial pitches are flat with B&S F tubas, so...) ...and very-similar-to-Besson compensating F tubas that I've seen (Boosey...~not~ "Boosey & Hawkes) were much worse...at least those that I've played...
...and there was a (1980's...?? 1990's...?? mothballed attempt by Besson again...), yes?

I wonder if they would end up being better instruments if they weren't (basically) shortened-at-both-ends Eb tubas...?? smaller bell "chest"...smaller valveset bore (perhaps only 5/8" or 21/32", rather than 11/16"...(??)
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Re: Any decent Chinese Piston F tuba out there?

Postby pauvog1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:42 pm

DouglasJB wrote:Are there any decent Chinese Piston F tubas out there? I know about the BMB F, but are there any others out there and How do they play? Looking for input from people who have tried any


The BMB was the only one I have tried. It was okay. Felt like a large F trying to be a small CC.
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