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Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby JaxBen_20J » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:01 pm

I came across this old decrepit beast on Facebook and got it for $100 (still have to pick it up and give it the close inspection) but the seller is so unfamiliar with musical instruments she couldn't even tell me the manufacturer. It once apparently had silver finish on it, and the stencil that she could read said something about "SPECIAL 1080 New York". I can't find any similar descriptions from any brands that I know of, so I'm assuming it's an older import. It has clockwork springs and some rather distinctive mounting plates for the supports. There's no engraving on the existing linkages, and I doubt there's any on the rear valve caps, but I can't tell from the available pictures.

Valves 1-3 move, but only 2 springs back (don't know if 1/3 are lack of oil or completely shot springs) - the paddle and linkage for V4 is completely missing, so if the rest of the horn is in unholy (ha!) condition, I suspect the lion's share of any functional restoration work would be in the valve cluster.

Has anyone ever seen a horn similar to this, or recognize the stencil?

Thanks!
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby cjk » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:15 pm

Based on the shape of the lyre holder back plate, I'd guess Bohland and Fuchs.
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby toobagrowl » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:50 pm

Yeah, that tuba looks like one of those old Carl Fisher/NYC-imported B&F Kaiser BBb tubas. Prolly a nice tuba once you get everything working and cleaned up. You got it for a steal for $100, but it will take $$$ to fix it up to good playable condition :idea: :!:
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby JaxBen_20J » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:11 pm

Much googling leads me to think it might be a Kalashen import. I'm hoping it is indeed something that can be restored!
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby bort » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:38 pm

Looks a lot like this one:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78999
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby JaxBen_20J » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:46 pm

bort wrote:Looks a lot like this one:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78999" target="_blank


I think we have a winner...now just have to find out what's left under all the gunk!
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby scottw » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:55 pm

Yes, they seem to be from the same family, one a 1040 model [?],the other a 1080, which would explain some different routing on the lead pipe and the ferrules on the bell stack and bottom bow. Very distinctive is the mounting late for the lyre holder: Bang on.
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby bort » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:19 pm

Btw, what a cool find for $100! :)
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Re: Help identifying unknown tuba

Postby hrender » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:36 am

I think this qualifies as a major find.
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