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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby Ulli » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:05 pm

For me it is the current I fell in love with: A old 'Cerveny Opera' B tuba with 5 valves and remonteur springs.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby iiipopes » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:15 am

Rick Denney wrote:I might restate the question as "which tubas became the archetypes for later generations?"

Or workhorses: King 1240, Miraphone 186, Conn 2XJ.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby Doc » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:35 am

iiipopes wrote:
Rick Denney wrote:I might restate the question as "which tubas became the archetypes for later generations?"

Or workhorses: King 1240, Miraphone 186, Conn 2XJ.


I liken the 186 to the Fender Precision Bass - The industry standard, a workhorse, and can nearly do it all, and does most everything incredibly well. Cuts through the mix well, sits in the mix well, and sounds great live or recorded. Those classic King 1240/1241/2341 tubas are in that same workhorse category for sure. Neither are the progenitor of modern tubas (nod to the OP), but they have evolved into something head-and-shoulders above the rest when it comes to general/do-it-all/one-tool-to-do-them-all applications.

If someone is going to spout a bunch of nonsense about how 6/4 CC's or F tubas (you know... those specialty tubas, much like how 6 string basses and fretless basses are specialty basses?) are the Fender P Bass standard workhorses of the tuba world, stop typing.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby Matt G » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:21 am

That’s a good analog, Doc.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby tobysima` » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:56 pm

Doc wrote:
iiipopes wrote:
Rick Denney wrote:I might restate the question as "which tubas became the archetypes for later generations?"

Or workhorses: King 1240, Miraphone 186, Conn 2XJ.


I liken the 186 to the Fender Precision Bass - The industry standard, a workhorse, and can nearly do it all, and does most everything incredibly well. Cuts through the mix well, sits in the mix well, and sounds great live or recorded. Those classic King 1240/1241/2341 tubas are in that same workhorse category for sure. Neither are the progenitor of modern tubas (nod to the OP), but they have evolved into something head-and-shoulders above the rest when it comes to general/do-it-all/one-tool-to-do-them-all applications.

If someone is going to spout a bunch of nonsense about how 6/4 CC's or F tubas (you know... those specialty tubas, much like how 6 string basses and fretless basses are specialty basses?) are the Fender P Bass standard workhorses of the tuba world, stop typing.



Well I suppose on that topic, I minds well inquire i there are any "smaller" York style tubas, be they 4/4 or 5/4. I know of the Mack Brass Little Thunderbird, but that's about it.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby tobysima` » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:59 pm

Doc wrote:
iiipopes wrote:
Rick Denney wrote:I might restate the question as "which tubas became the archetypes for later generations?"

Or workhorses: King 1240, Miraphone 186, Conn 2XJ.


I liken the 186 to the Fender Precision Bass - The industry standard, a workhorse, and can nearly do it all, and does most everything incredibly well. Cuts through the mix well, sits in the mix well, and sounds great live or recorded. Those classic King 1240/1241/2341 tubas are in that same workhorse category for sure. Neither are the progenitor of modern tubas (nod to the OP), but they have evolved into something head-and-shoulders above the rest when it comes to general/do-it-all/one-tool-to-do-them-all applications.

If someone is going to spout a bunch of nonsense about how 6/4 CC's or F tubas (you know... those specialty tubas, much like how 6 string basses and fretless basses are specialty basses?) are the Fender P Bass standard workhorses of the tuba world, stop typing.


Also, I'll likely own one CC, one F, and one Euph. Maybe a Flugel, and maybe I'll end up paying someone to make on of those Berkeley Winds bass flugels into an F alto tuba.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby Matt G » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:33 am

tobysima` wrote:Well I suppose on that topic, I minds well inquire i there are any "smaller" York style tubas, be they 4/4 or 5/4. I know of the Mack Brass Little Thunderbird, but that's about it.


The Eastman 632 and 832 CCs are “York-ish” 4/4 sized tubas.
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Re: The "Most Important" Tubas - With Side Note

Postby tobysima` » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:54 pm

Matt G wrote:
tobysima` wrote:Well I suppose on that topic, I minds well inquire i there are any "smaller" York style tubas, be they 4/4 or 5/4. I know of the Mack Brass Little Thunderbird, but that's about it.


The Eastman 632 and 832 CCs are “York-ish” 4/4 sized tubas.


I've heard very good things about the 632. How does it compare with the 832?
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