Alternate Dvorak "New World" tuba part

[PMeuph]

The editing of parts is an insulated kind of thinking which gets out of hand
...Orchestral players (of all instruments) have the same complaints about all
kinds of repertoire.

Not saying that you're wrong.

But simply another way of presenting orchestral music: think "Stokowski" and other conductors. Not just their out-and-out transcriptions, Stokowski, Ormandy, and other conductors of the 19th and 20th centuries often put their own stamp on the composer's score by changing the instrumentation, dramatic alterations in tempi, etc.

Also, Mahler (re)orchestrated the Schumann symphonies and the Beethoven symphonies....

[Ben]

Also, Mahler (re)orchestrated the Schumann symphonies and the Beethoven symphonies....

... and Schoenberg re-orchestrated works of Bach.

As for a recording, there is one floating around of me, its even on youtube w/ the Manhattan Symphonie.

[Art Hovey]

The Encore Music link that started this thread no longer works. I'll have a chance to play it in a few months and wish I had downloaded the part when it first appeared.

Does anyone know where I can find it, or can anyone send me a copy?

[imperialbari]

I've uploaded a copy here.

I'll try to just leave it there for anyone else that finds this post. Not sure how long that will last but I'll give it a try.

Just downloaded the file from the above link, which is still on the first page of this thread.

[Kevin Hendrick]

I've uploaded a copy here.

I'll try to just leave it there for anyone else that finds this post. Not sure how long that will last but I'll give it a try.

Just downloaded the file from the above link, which is still on the first page of this thread.

Tried it a couple of minutes ago -- still works for me.

[MikeMason]

We played this in October. I considered showing this to my conductor until I realized it would mean getting home 1.5 hours later one rehearsal and arriving 2 hrs early for another for the same pay. Maybe next time...

[Wyvern]

I played this arrangement with my orchestra only last month. The conductor was happy with the part. Mind you he is a conductor that likes the tuba enough to write a part for me to play in Beethoven 9

[MrHidan30]

Ha! That's a good one Chris. As a kid I only knew Pictures at an Exhibition as a piano piece. Imagine my excitement when I went to my first real symphony concert, and to my surprise, to hear the Ravel arrangement. When my father tells the story he says I went "nuts".......

I was the other way around. I first heard it as an orchestral piece. Then later I learned that was a Ravel arrangement and not the original. The original looks terrifying to me though.

[Bob Kolada]

So, fancy pants Tubenetters, if a conductor decides on a change that's better than a degreed player deciding on a change? Keep in mind, most of the orchestral members here seem to focus on griping on the conductors' choices.

[Bob Kolada]

****, maybe the, ORCHESTRAL LOW BRASS HAND OF GOD, really should be 4 trombones.

[NCSUSousa]

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[elihellsten]

Does somebody have a full orchestra recording with the Ryker part?

[Michael Bush]

Does somebody have a full orchestra recording with the Ryker part?

Good question. I'd be interested in giving that a listen as well.

[Yane]

In my community Orchestra, the Lake Murray Symphony, I have to go-ahead to add some "oomph" to our 2 double basses (including one high schooler who is learning rapidly) in the New World Symphony. I am reading the bass part down an octave and playing where loud is called for and as feasible on my Eb (boy those low C's take a lot of valves and air!). I am enjoying the challenge of playing low and matching tone and attacks with the basses, between bouts or regretting getting what I asked for. This Ryker part discussed earlier is intriguing, but the links previously cited seem to be dead. Does anyone have the Ryker part available to share?

[hbcrandy]

I believe if I were to print that thing off and start playing it in one of the per-service orchestras that brings me in, I would get (not the "thumb", but) "the boot"...probably from BOTH the music director AND the bass trombonist.

If Dvorak did not write it, DON'T PLAY IT!

[Ben]

Does somebody have a full orchestra recording with the Ryker part?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI1_ITtQlA" target="_blank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhtVtB56xaE" target="_blank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5Wvqqivu8" target="_blank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjdRdZNk2uY" target="_blank

[Wyvern]

I have just uploaded the Ryker tuba part to Wessex Tubas website, so it will continue to be easily accessible to download.

The part can be downloaded at http://www.wessex-tubas.com/dvorak-tuba-new-world/

[Art Hovey]

https://app.box.com/s/tofu5yeaf6igd4ohs6vx

This is my version, edited for clarity.
Notice that the triplet in the first passage is with the basses.
Trombones have the same notes but in a different rhythm.

[imperialbari]

https://app.box.com/s/tofu5yeaf6igd4ohs6vx

Why the respelling of the 2 last notes of said triplet?

Klaus

[pjdicris]

Does anyone have the Jobey Wilson version? Interested in seeing how it compares