
Why not a double-belled trombone?
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
About 10 years ago I heard Dr. John Marcellus, professor of trombone at Eastman perform on his home-built double bell trombone. He was also Principal Trombonist of the Nat'l Symphony Orchestra for 13 years. His second bell was smaller like a cornet or trumpet. Main bell looked to be about 9". If I remember correctly he played, "Colloquy" (Goldstein). Just found a picture:


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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
Seen lots'o folk do this over the years by replacing a slide on the F attachment with a bell...
Quick, patent the "hat" design before someone else on the TNFJ does!
(It was your idea, after all!
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Quick, patent the "hat" design before someone else on the TNFJ does!
(It was your idea, after all!
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
If you look at picture #4 of 8 on the Schiller website, you can see that the valve either works as an F attachment or as a bell toggle... I wonder how heavy the additional Bell makes the horn.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
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He's got a youtube video of him playing it.
He's got a youtube video of him playing it.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
Like trombone players really need more encouragement? LOL
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
I find my 88H heavy enough without adding a bell to it. This doesn't address the positive or negative affects on the sound of course.
The Conn double bell euphoniums aren't that bad an idea. Practically speaking: with its .563" bore they might play better if they had Ben built with a large bore lead pipe and an 90G type of bell.
The Conn double bell euphoniums aren't that bad an idea. Practically speaking: with its .563" bore they might play better if they had Ben built with a large bore lead pipe and an 90G type of bell.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
Imagine, if you will, that Schiller double-bell section wed to a Holton Superbone valve/slide section.
Now, there's an instrument with 1001 uses.
Now, there's an instrument with 1001 uses.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
Too stuffy.
.484" bore on a valved tenor instrument (and with that tight rap!) might be the problem.
.484" bore on a valved tenor instrument (and with that tight rap!) might be the problem.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?
As some famous or semi-famous person said, "build it and some (idiot) will come to it!"
Joking aside, the smaller bell on the 2-bell euphonium was intended for reinforcing trombone lines. Circus bands used them for that reason. If you're going to do the opposite with a trombone, might it not make more sense to do it cimbasso style, meaning that rotary valves could be employed, and with the bulk of the weight resting on the floor?
Joking aside, the smaller bell on the 2-bell euphonium was intended for reinforcing trombone lines. Circus bands used them for that reason. If you're going to do the opposite with a trombone, might it not make more sense to do it cimbasso style, meaning that rotary valves could be employed, and with the bulk of the weight resting on the floor?