Why not a double-belled trombone?

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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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About 10 years ago I heard Dr. John Marcellus, professor of trombone at Eastman perform on his home-built double bell trombone. He was also Principal Trombonist of the Nat'l Symphony Orchestra for 13 years. His second bell was smaller like a cornet or trumpet. Main bell looked to be about 9". If I remember correctly he played, "Colloquy" (Goldstein). Just found a picture:

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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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Seen lots'o folk do this over the years by replacing a slide on the F attachment with a bell...

Quick, patent the "hat" design before someone else on the TNFJ does!
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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If you look at picture #4 of 8 on the Schiller website, you can see that the valve either works as an F attachment or as a bell toggle... I wonder how heavy the additional Bell makes the horn.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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He's got a youtube video of him playing it.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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Like trombone players really need more encouragement? LOL
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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I find my 88H heavy enough without adding a bell to it. This doesn't address the positive or negative affects on the sound of course.
The Conn double bell euphoniums aren't that bad an idea. Practically speaking: with its .563" bore they might play better if they had Ben built with a large bore lead pipe and an 90G type of bell.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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Imagine, if you will, that Schiller double-bell section wed to a Holton Superbone valve/slide section.

Now, there's an instrument with 1001 uses.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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Too stuffy.
.484" bore on a valved tenor instrument (and with that tight rap!) might be the problem.
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Re: Why not a double-belled trombone?

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As some famous or semi-famous person said, "build it and some (idiot) will come to it!" :mrgreen:

Joking aside, the smaller bell on the 2-bell euphonium was intended for reinforcing trombone lines. Circus bands used them for that reason. If you're going to do the opposite with a trombone, might it not make more sense to do it cimbasso style, meaning that rotary valves could be employed, and with the bulk of the weight resting on the floor?
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