Absolutely horrendous.....

ai698 · Post by **ai698** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:35 am

Sounds like you're

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Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:40 am

I wouldn't start worrying quite yet. Rotary valves stick when they haven't been used in awhile. Right now, it's on its way to you and if it arrives in one piece, you'll probably fall in love with it.

Think good thoughts.

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:04 am

bloke wrote:FedExGround

Greyhound? No personal experience, but some people seem to like them for oversize instruments.

My latest tuba cost a lot more than that to ship. Air freight, on pallet. Cost almost as much as the tuba. Which luckily wasn't a fortune, and it was deluxe transport - faster, better handling. While it's a shame to lose money to something like this that profits neither party, I'd rather spend it that way than on repair surgery afterwards.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:12 am

Donn wrote:Greyhound? No personal experience, but some people seem to like them for oversize instruments.

While my rare experiences with Greyhound haven't been unpleasant, I've heard horror stories.

Greyhound has a maximum claim limit of $300 per item. Period. No extra insurance available.

Depending on where the thing's headed, Greyhound may hand the package off to other carriers, such as Trailways.

The horror stories involve someone just grabbing the horn at a terminal stop as it was placed on the curb in preparation for the handoff to the next bus.

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:41 am

Chuck(G) wrote:
Donn wrote:Greyhound? No personal experience, but some people seem to like them for oversize instruments.
While my rare experiences with Greyhound haven't been unpleasant, I've heard horror stories.

I've heard one... an alumininium trumpet mute... flattened. Different musical store chain.

I Don't think anything will flatten a tuba. We've used them with my work alot and to my knowledge, no problems. We don't box if there is a case on it... we just tape over latches and over the case.

Ace · Post by **Ace** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:23 am

Josh,

I shipped a tuba to Anchorage, Alaska a few months ago. SF Bay area to Anchorage was $303 by Fed Ex three day delivery. Actual delivery time was three WEEKS. I and my customer complained, and Fed Ex customer service said they would not charge anything! Such a deal.

A couple of years ago, I shipped a tuba to a guy in Minnesota by UPS. The bottom bow was badly dented in the shipment. UPS returned the tuba to me, refunded my shipping charge, and paid to have the tuba repaired.

I guess the point of this is that shippers will sometimes be cooperative and reasonable. However, I hope you will not be faced with shipping problems and damages.

dtemp · Post by **dtemp** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:24 pm

joshstanman wrote:if a cow with utter problems was reading the post, they might be offended.

Except cows have udders.

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:28 pm

bloke wrote:

If it's REALLY important - GO GET the friggin' tuba (I do that, too.) Alaska?...again, how important? ' hope you don't have a car wreck on the way home with it...**** happens, ya' know...

Not to mention that Greyhound will be happy to carry you TO the tuba and both the tuba AND you back home.

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:32 pm

joshstanman wrote:We only have one natural earth, but a plethora of alternate energy sources. I think oil tax dollars should go towards R&D in these sources. Agree?

I think soccer moms and Jeff Foxworthy wannabes should stop driving huge SUV's and four door 3/4 ton pickups (the latest trend in east Tennessee)
Save those vehicles for the contractors, farmers, and others who actually need them. No to mention that the visibility out of these things is non-existent for children within 12 feet of them (my son was nearly run over twice by people making illegal three-point-turns directly outside his school) or that they cause a disproportionate amount of damage to other smarter vehicles.

Simple: Stop unnecessarily using so darn much oil and we can stop raping the earth to get more.

I can put a tremendous amount of stuff in my (wife's) old Taurus wagon and still get decent mileage while taking corners sideways without fear of rolling. My wife's newer car, a Civic, easily seats a family of four, holds everything we actually need in the trunk, and gets about three times the mileage of these beasts that litter our roads and kill our children. My Specialized bicycle got me through several years of college and the only oil it ever used was the monthly spritz on the chain.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:33 pm

My tuba was shipped DSL in a recliner chair box, cushioned by the larger plastic air pillows, no case, and arrived just fine -- quick, cheap (comparatively) and good.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:34 pm

I agree that sport utility, as a name to describe a genre of vehicles, is an oxymoron at best, and downright ridiculous in most cases.

I refused to even consider one until the Ford Escape came out. Forget the sport, but as a utility vehicle, hard to beat. The dashboard 4-wheel drive will not get you to Pike's Peak; it wasn't designed that way. But being careful and slow, remembering your basic physics about still taking as long to stop, the dashboard 4-wheel drive can help get you out of an icy parking lot or through other inclement weather with much more stability.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:35 am

True. But my wife really likes the front wheel drive, and it was $$$ cheaper than anything else comparable with primary front wheel drive.

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:27 pm

mike-j-g wrote:Maybe. But how easy will it be to extract? Our way of life doesn't just depend on the presence of oil, it needs to be cheap. We may not run out, we just may not be able to afford it.

At which time cheaper alternatives will emerge.

Nobody had to mandate or support with government-funded R&D the switch from, say, riding horses to automobiles.

Rick "who has faith in the market because nothing else on this earth has earned that faith" Denney

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:34 pm

Were we running out of horses? Darn, I missed that. Good thing I still have that Amish stock...

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:53 pm

windshieldbug wrote:Were we running out of horses? Darn, I missed that. Good thing I still have that Amish stock...

No. Horses were just more expensive, compared to what you got out of them. A cheaper alternative emerged that was a more effective use of dollars.

Rick "who wonders that nobody talks of the environmental improvement resulting from no longer spreading horse manure liberally all over every street" Denney

gwwilk · Post by **gwwilk** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:11 pm

Rick Denney wrote:
No. Horses were just more expensive, compared to what you got out of them. A cheaper alternative emerged that was a more effective use of dollars.

Rick "who wonders that nobody talks of the environmental improvement resulting from no longer spreading horse manure liberally all over every street" Denney

Now there's a straight line I refuse to touch cause it might turn to p______s!