Somebody tell me something about Miraphone 1291 CC

Arkietuba · Post by **Arkietuba** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:06 pm

Very free-blowing, good sound in the lower/upper range but a bad tone when compared to the MW 2155.

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:51 pm

I'm playing on one that just does not speak in the low range.
It sings up high, but when we played Ghosts, from McNeff... hell!

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:00 pm

Even Miraphone themselves have now brought out a 1292, the major difference being the leadpipe, which I have heard is interchangable. One thought would be go back to your dealer and see if he can get the new leadpipe in for you to try.

Gravid · Post by **Gravid** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:51 pm

Nah, the leadpipe is still fixed on the 1292. The low register, IMO, is more open on the 1291. However, it slots better on the 1292. Intonation is also a tad better on the 1292, as are the ergonomics (tuning slide accessibility). I used to own a 1291, and now I own a 1292.

bort · Post by **bort** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:46 pm

Quick valves too. Probably one of the shortest throw 5th valves I've seen.

Charlie Goodman · Post by **Charlie Goodman** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:41 pm

Gravid wrote:Nah, the leadpipe is still fixed on the 1292. The low register, IMO, is more open on the 1291. However, it slots better on the 1292. Intonation is also a tad better on the 1292, as are the ergonomics (tuning slide accessibility). I used to own a 1291, and now I own a 1292.

The slotting issue, I think, would be a major improvement. My 1291 plays wonderfully in all registers, particularly in the low register, but the "slots" are extremely wide, and tuning becomes a problem, especially at extreme dynamics.

hurricane_harry · Post by **hurricane_harry** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:08 pm

i don't know if my opion counts because i bought my 1291 modified by alan baer (it was his) he modifyed the leadpipe and a few other minor things himself, this thing has a wonderful low range, but you have to use the right fingerings for it, normal one don't fly on this horn. otherwise i think that his is by-far the best horn in this price range. this horn not only blends well in an orchestra but in a wind band as well. my horn at least, is very even and has no real 'bad' notes. if you wanna buy one i'de wait for the 1292 though, that horn is supposed to be alot like the one i own.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:19 pm

What fingerings are different?

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:39 pm

Depending on the particular orchestra a person plays with, and depending on the relative intonation (or lack thereof), having wide slots to lip while you're trying to get the main tuning slide pulled to match the strings in the middle of a movement might be a blessing rather than a curse!

Charlie Goodman · Post by **Charlie Goodman** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:10 pm

iiipopes wrote:Depending on the particular orchestra a person plays with, and depending on the relative intonation (or lack thereof), having wide slots to lip while you're trying to get the main tuning slide pulled to match the strings in the middle of a movement might be a blessing rather than a curse!

This might be true, but I find it makes slurring a little treacherous at times.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:31 pm

Think about it -- if the strings are that far off, a missed slur or two will not be noticed!