Michael Moore playing RVW tuba concerto

samulirask · Post by **samulirask** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:45 am

I found a performance of Vaughan Williams tuba concerto on NPR radio stations web site. A tubaist called Michael Moore plays it with Atlanta symphony orchestra.

(Edited:)

I speculated what instrument Michael Moore uses in that performance, and my guess was that he plays it on a small C-tuba. I found out that thereÂ´s people viewing this board that who knew this thing better, so I took away my original message because it turned out to be unnecessary.

tubaman5150 · Post by **tubaman5150** » Sun May 07, 2006 12:24 pm

Here's the link for that:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=5240584

From the sound of it, I'm pretty sure he's playing that on an 5 valve F tuba. Listen closely to the cadenza in the 1st mvt.

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sun May 07, 2006 12:31 pm

sounds like a larger rotary f to me...some interesting things in the first mvmt cadenza...

BVD Press · Post by **BVD Press** » Sun May 07, 2006 1:20 pm

Here is a link with his email:

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~mmoor ... moore.html

You could ask him!

J Stowe · Post by **J Stowe** » Sun May 07, 2006 2:03 pm

That's gotta be an F tuba. It's so bright in the low register. He played here (UGA) a year or two ago with the Atlanta low brass during SERTEC and they did several orchestral excerpts. He was playing on what I believe was a Holton C (it was huge, so I figured it was a holton). The sound was much darker. But hey, I could be wrong.

chhite · Post by **chhite** » Sun May 07, 2006 3:32 pm

As of a few years ago, Michael's inventory consisted of his Holton 345 CC, a Shillke 5-piston F, an old 4/4 Rudolf Meinl rotary F, a Meinl Weston 45SLP, and the horn he most likely played the VW on, a Yamaha 621 F. Again, this info is slightly dated and I'm not sure when the recording was made. But contacting him is the best way to find out.

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Sun May 07, 2006 3:55 pm

Mike is pricipal tuba of the Atlanta Symphony orchestra. For this performance he told me that he played his Yamaha 621 F tuba. And his big horn (for most orchestra stuff ) is a Holton CC.
Bill

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sun May 07, 2006 10:19 pm

so much for my ear...

samulirask · Post by **samulirask** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:00 am

OK, I was wrong. The sound was just so big and there was also some other things too that made me think that it was a C-tuba (like the trill in the beginning of the last movement).

Ian1 · Post by **Ian1** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:07 pm

Interesting performance. How would V.W himself feel about it I wonder...?

ThomasP · Post by **ThomasP** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:42 pm

Ok....

I'm not gonna comment on Moore's playing of the RVW Concert, but Carol's playing at the end of that clip.

As one of my friend's said earlier this year..."she has no holes"

That is all

ThomasP · Post by **ThomasP** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:24 pm

I guess he never said it was her, but he never said it was someone else.

I'm comfortable with my assumption.

Z-Tuba Dude · Post by **Z-Tuba Dude** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:52 pm

I think that we must be careful to behave in as professional a manner, as possible, when commenting on specific performances of colleagues, in a public forum (such as this).

joebob · Post by **joebob** » Mon May 08, 2006 8:06 pm

I listened to that playing and it is quite fine, but I don't think the announcer ever said specifically that it was Carol playing the Largo al Factotum at the end of that clip. True he was talking about her, but that sounded like a professionally recorded track to me, has she made recordings with orchestra playing that work?

I'm pretty sure that recording at the end is of Sam Pilafian. I think it's from a CD called "A Brassy Night at the Opera." I could be wrong though. It is a bit strange that they don't say who the tuba player is - they do lead the listener to believe it's Carol.

tuba114 · Post by **tuba114** » Mon May 08, 2006 8:27 pm

Ian1 wrote:Interesting performance. How would V.W himself feel about it I wonder...?

I think that Vaughan Williams would have liked it, there are two was to play this the popular version and then there is the original transcription before it was edited by Philip Catelinet who premiered it in 1954 with the London Symphony. V.W wrote it to be smoother and legato, and Catelinet saw it more as a bouncy and staccato piece. I am not saying that either way is wrong but, I think that Mike Moore was playing it more of the way that Vaughan Williams envisioned it.

Here is a master class by Roger Bobo, taking about the Vaughan Williams

http://www.tubanews.com/download/Roger_ ... Part_2.mp3

or

http://www.tubanews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394

Dan Satterwhite · Post by **Dan Satterwhite** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:10 pm

I'm pretty sure that recording at the end is of Sam Pilafian. I think it's from a CD called "A Brassy Night at the Opera." I could be wrong though. It is a bit strange that they don't say who the tuba player is - they do lead the listener to believe it's Carol.

It is Sam's recording. It's extremely lame of them to play Sam's performance (and yes, it's misleading) in this context and not credit him.

Dan