The King! The King!

chipster55 · Post by **chipster55** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:08 pm

Congrats on your new horn - hope you enjoy it for many years to come.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:34 pm

Easier to play, more in-tune, and prettier. What are you doing wasting time posting?

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:57 pm

Long live the King!

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:30 pm

Well, for me ergonomics is of necessity almost everything. At the polar opposite of 6'2" and rotund...I pretty much have to buy what I can hold and blow, and that's it.

Congrats on the new tuba...many happy blattings!

MA

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:48 pm

TubaTuck wrote:And I said, "Sure....where is it?"

(me, too! 6'3"/285)

Alex F · Post by **Alex F** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:40 pm

Congratulations Tuck. You'll be the envy of the orchestra brass - who else can claim a 20" bell?

I know what Dave F. is asking for the Kings he has in stock. If I could play a front-action horn, I'd be taking a trip out there now.

ken k · Post by **ken k** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:19 pm

if you look at the tubing exiting the 4th valve you will see a little knuckle there. That is a favorite water collecting spot. Take out the valve and tip the horn forward and it rolls right out the vavle case. Don't forget to take out the spring or it will go rolling across the floor!
enjoy!
ken k

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:33 pm

tofu · Post by **tofu** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:49 am

Matt Walters (who posts here on this board occasionally) over at Dillon Music had a significant hand in the development of the 2341 and like a lot of us on this board is not on the "petite" side.

Truly the simplest thing I find to get rid of the water is to do the "KING SPIN". Once around and I dump the slides. Not the easiest thing to do in a concert though. I always do it before a concert and that has eliminated having to do it during a concert.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed May 24, 2006 1:15 am

tofu wrote:I always do it before a concert and that has sliminated having to do it during a concert.

Who got sliminated? The conductor? The rest of the band? Heaven forbid, the audience? And I thought mere dumping of slides was bad!

chipster55 · Post by **chipster55** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:50 am

Tuck - Glad you like the King. I'm gonna have to come to Flower Mound & hear you guys play sometime.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed May 24, 2006 11:38 am

Funky Tut!!!

Alex F · Post by **Alex F** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:18 pm

TubaTuck wrote: If I tried, at the moment, to spend another dime on any "tuba-related" issue, my wife says that will embed my Helleburg about 3 inches right in the center of my forehead.

Tuck

Consider yourself lucky, she could choose another anatomical insertion point that might make removal, and subsequent re-use, a bit more dicey.

billeuph · Post by **billeuph** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:58 pm

TubaTuck wrote:Bug:
I'm 6'2", and rotund at about 255. Who knows, maybe the designer of the 2341 decided to build a horn that would be a great fit for us big boys.

Interesting, since I'm 5'8" and weigh 135 pounds, and I think that the king 2341 fits me perfectly, too.

The valves are definitely noisy. I suspect that a long overdue trip to Dillons will cure this, just like it did for my Besson 982. Matt installed rubber pads on both sides of the valve springs that really silenced valve operation.

Bill Anderson

Lew · Post by **Lew** » Wed May 24, 2006 1:00 pm

I find that as long as I empty the first valve slide (at the top) periodically while playing and especially before putting the horn down, I rarely have to do the "King Spin." As for the valve noise, it is endemic with this horns due to the metal valve guides. Lee Stofer mentioned that there is a company that makes nylon guides that will fit into the King valves without modification. You could contact him to see what it would take. I haven't done that yet, but replacing the guides with nylon should really quiet them down. Even without doing that, the noise isn't bad enough that it can be heard from the audience, or at least that's what my wife tells me

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tofu · Post by **tofu** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:59 am

Lew wrote:I find that as long as I empty the first valve slide (at the top) periodically while playing and especially before putting the horn down, I rarely have to do the "King Spin." As for the valve noise, it is endemic with this horns due to the metal valve guides. Lee Stofer mentioned that there is a company that makes nylon guides that will fit into the King valves without modification. You could contact him to see what it would take. I haven't done that yet, but replacing the guides with nylon should really quiet them down. Even without doing that, the noise isn't bad enough that it can be heard from the audience, or at least that's what my wife tells me .

Matt Walters over at Dillon Music has a conversion kit (or at least did when I bought my horn) 3 years ago. I think the valve guides and springs were Yamaha, but I'm not certain. My valves have not had the valve noise other folks seem to have so I haven't converted them -- yet.

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The King! The King!

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