harold wrote:The real question is: Am I getting less tolerant as I get older or is the focus of the board going through some dramatic change?
Yes and yes. TubeNet is not a reference library.Everything is not in a neat and orderly fashion where it's quiet and there are helpfull people standing by to answer your every question (or at least point you in the right direction). Tubenet is more like the lunchroom at school or work. Several different conversations going on at once.....some important....some not. There is always that guy at the end of the table that always has something funny to say. There are rude people, shy people, all sorts. Every now and then, It's time to get up and go do something else. Some may come back and sit at the same table at a later date. Some may not. When I first go to TubeNet I looked at the "old Tubenet" a lot to find out some information. Guess what: same info, same smart remarks, same joking around....just less of it. As TubeNet gets bigger you will get more of the things you like about it...as well as more of the things you don't like. Oh, one other thing. The ability to have pictures added right to the posts definitly adds to the mix in both good and bad ways. Before the pics you would have to actively click on something to see it. Now, folks can post pics of steaks and BBQ whenever they want and there is no way to sheild your eyes from it .
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I don't care for this idea too much. I can empathize with your position, but I am in the category of a "Young Turks" but greatly appreciate the advice of the "Old Hands." Being recently injured, a post such as the affects of getting old really helps me. I have realized that although I have a difficult time holding and carrying a horn, so do plenty of other folks. I am upset that others in my age bracket (24) have caused such a problem, but there are plenty of us who use this forum to improve ourselves in many ways.
Harold, you sound as if you'd be a great candidate for one of those "retirement communities" that seem to be popping up all over the place out here. People under 65 admitted only as visitors. Everyone else carefully cloistered and mothballed with others of their sell-by date, lest they be contaminated by youth.
I don't think so and to set the record, I'm somewhere in the middle!
I enjoy listening to the youngsters and sometimes answering their questions. When it comes to the old-timers we all learn from their experiences. The youngsters will sometimes stick their foot in their mouths and the old-timers are sometimes too quick to judge and bark nasty responses. It's really no different than our everyday lives! We have to put up with all kinds of people everyday. Then again, I guess the old timers will go play bingo and the youngster will go to the skate park. We each go our own ways... Almost a self-segregation!
Our common interest in music is what keeps us coming back for more of that loving punishment...
What's wrong with a kid asking a question about a horn he can't afford? He's just trying to learn something.
Granted, I wish more people would use the search button before posting new threads, but when I started using message boards, I didn't do that either.
And yeah, some of the "i'm a young bad *** tubist; should I go to Eastman or Julliard" stuff gets old, but so does the snapping some of the forum vets (and even no some not so much vets, just no it alls) have for other folks posts. Seems that some folks just get mad when all you do is disagree with them.
But yes, Tubenet is a lot like a lunchroom. Just this time round, no once can beat you up and take your money.
so does the snapping some of the forum vets (and even no some not so much vets, just no it alls)
I think I would like to be a "no-it-all" someday
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I say "no" a lot. Does that count?
Seriously, I get a little tired of the "know it all" type posts, myself. I believe TubeNet is somewhat of a reflection of the world at large. We must all take the good with the bad. TubeNet has its share of garbage. The good news is that there is a lot of really good stuff to be shared. When I truly "know it all," I will be most happy to share it with everyone else.
Most societal groups are mixtures of young and old. This may cause friction but as much or more good happens when we communicate.
There may be a temptation to screen out offenders but I believe that to be counterproductive in the long run.
As a geezer, I learn much from the young ones struggling with situations I never had to deal with. I help if I can and try to keep my mouth shut if I have nothing concrete to offer.
Have you had a big ole dose of tuba today? Can't hurt, might help!
I know that some of us "youngins" often post silly/stupid things. I am guilty of this myself. But all that matters is that we all LOVE the tuba and/or euphonium. So some have more info. to offer than others. And generally the ones to offer such great advice are the ones who have been there and done that. I personally love to hear tips, advice, and just good stories from the older tuba players that I've met in person and have gotten a chance to hang out or play with. I don't think this fine forum needs a divide. I think it just needs patience with the younger ones who don't know their way around the site like many of the older ones do. Remember, EVERYONE at one point is a beginner. Have a good evening folks!
harold wrote:Another? THe drop in the posts by both Rick Denney and Chuck Jackson - arguably some of the most insightful stuff here on this board.
I can't speak for Chuck, but all it means in my case is that I've been busy at work and with other projects lately. I've had several periods of inactivity in my 7 or 8 years of participation here caused by being busy with other things.
I don't want the kids to go away, however. It's too much fun to goof on them.
Online forums are like the solar system. You have the nearby planets that are always in view, the comets that visit only rarely and shine brightly when they do, the distant planets that are dimly seen, big planets with lots of satellites, and even the occasional misguided asteroid that risks a nasty collision with something bigger.
Rick "whose occasional absences should not be interpreted as meaning anything in particular" Denney
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