New Hummer Ads. Why?

Tubainsauga · Post by **Tubainsauga** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:55 pm

[rant]Is it just me or is GM doing itself no favours with its new line of Hummer ads? They say you can "restore your manhood" if you buy a Hummer. What's next? A commercial in a locker room with a slogan like "small d**k? buy a hummer."? I guess I just don't understand people who not only judge others, but judge themselves on their ability to accumulate of stuff. Is anyone actually impressed by the car someone drives?[/rant]

TMurphy · Post by **TMurphy** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:07 pm

Pfft. Obviously, you aren't cool or important enough for a hummer.

May I take my tongue out of my cheek now???

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:27 am

Tubainsauga wrote:Is it just me or is GM doing itself no favours with its new line of Hummer ads?

It's not just you ...

Tubainsauga wrote:They say you can "restore your manhood" if you buy a Hummer.

"Buy", hell -- I've never had to pay for one yet!

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:31 am

Hummer: people are dying to defend your right to be this stupid.

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:12 am

New Hummer ads? Because they want to show what the vehicle looks like with all its wheels still attached.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2006 ... els_f.html

P.S. I am sure at least a few gutter minds here know an alternate meaning for the word "hummer." Smart name choice!

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:26 am

MartyNeilan wrote:New Hummer ads? Because they want to show what the vehicle looks like with all its wheels still attached.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2006 ... els_f.html

Typical dealder response:"Gee, it's just one wheel! You still have three--what's your problem?"

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:45 am

Nice stout vehicle! Lookit all that GM oil and antifreeze underneath with just that little bump!

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:05 pm

Some observations from the last several days:

1. Fellow in a Corvette (probably that high-powered whatever version) was turning right on red and got into it a bit too much. He spun around. The good driver would have steered into the oversteer and kept his foot in it. The cool driver would have kept his foot in it and done a complete donut before taking off. The smart driver wouldn't have broken it loose in the first place. This guy was just dumb, unskilled, and uncool. He had to pull off at the next side street to remove the "I AM A STUPID MORON" sign from the back of the car. Great fun laughing at him.

2. Saw a Ford GT-40 this morning. A real one from the old days--the Daytona Coupe with the 427 SCJ side-oiler. That guy also got on it, never broke loose, and affected the rotation of the planet with his transfer of power. I envied him. Deeply.

3. The current Hummer is just a suburban with a military-chic body on it. It's a fashion statement. The original HUMVEE (and even the original HUMMER) was 8 feet wide, low to the ground, but with a very high ground clearance, etc. The Hummer is narrow and tall by comparison. But the HUMVEE was just as expensive as the current Hummer, and probably moreso. I knew a guy who had one--he worked out at the same gym as I did in Dallas. He was always checking himself out in the mirror and flirting (badly) with the girls. He was so short he needed a step stool to climb into that HUMVEE.

4. I have winched my vehicle down 45-degree pitches in the canyon country of Utah, and there's no way I would drive a Hummer (or a HUMVEE) on the jeep trails out there. The HUMVEE is too wide, and the Hummer is too tall. And both are too heavy.

5. My favorite scene in Cars was when an Ole' Army Jeep was leading a Hummer into the mud, and the Hummer, with a feminine voice, was aghast.

Rick "form follows function" Denney

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:43 pm

Boanerges wrote:In the Swedish language *Hummer* is the nomenclature for Lobster

Put 'em in a boiling pot, and see if they turn red!

DBCooper · Post by **DBCooper** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:47 pm

Oh, I'm sorry... I thought you said "Humber"...

trseaman · Post by **trseaman** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:55 pm

Rick Denney wrote:The current Hummer is just a suburban with a military-chic body on it. It's a fashion statement. The original HUMVEE (and even the original HUMMER) was 8 feet wide, low to the ground, but with a very high ground clearance, etc.

Totally agree... I never understood the hype for the newer style. Other than the typical, "my truck is bigger than yours syndrome" The new Hummer will never match the capabilities of the original HUMVEE.

Doc wrote:I'd take a Willys or a CJ5 anyday.

Again, I totally agree. For true 4-wheeling, nothing can compare to a short wheel based Willies, CJ or Bronco... Should have never sold my old CJ! Bigger is not always better...

Tim

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:19 pm

This was a VERY cool guy and his ride circa 1993. Frame-off resto completely done by the owner; part 81 and part 83 CJ7 with a 258 I6 bored .030 over, 3 angle valve job, coated headers, and dual synchronized Weber carbs under a fiberglass hood. 4 speed tranny, the original 5 speed couldn't handle the torque and was swapped out. And, yes, it spent plenty of time off road and even a little time in the air.

trseaman · Post by **trseaman** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:13 pm

Doc wrote:We always had a Jeep growing up. My dad did buy a '74? Bronco. It was THE ****! Bought another CJ5 in 1978, but kept the Bronco in the family until 1980 or so. I was terribly sad to see the Bronco leave. The Jeep hung around until 1986 when 4wd trucks were really becoming popular (available) down here. He got one and sold the CJ5 to my oldest brother. It was a jewel. Basic vehicle, no frills. Not meant to be driven over 50mph either. A real tool. Wish he still had it. One of these days....

Mine was an 81' CJ-7 and I wasn't really into hard core wheelin' since it was also my transportation to work! At the time, we lived near Portland, OR and for about 7 years and it was my main rig. Took me to every fishing hole, hunting spot and back to work... It was great! I got married and had a couple kids, since then nothings been the same!!!

Tim

Had to dig a while to find this old picture! Looks like this could become a Jeep thread!

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:04 am

MartyNeilan wrote:And, yes, it spent plenty of time off road and even a little time in the air.

Where's the winch?

Air time? What kind of four-wheeler is he? Air time is a sign of mistakes. Out in the Utah desert, air time can mean a broken axle or worse, and on many of those roads it might be several days (or weeks) before someone else comes along.

Somewhere, I have a picture of winching my Cherokee down the 45-degree pitch of the Rock Pile on Pritchett Canyon Road, in the Behind the Rocks region just west of Moab. It was steep enough while winching such that my windshield washer tank emptied itself from the rear window washer nozzle--by gravity. Almost lost the jeep when it started to drag the boulder my winch strap was tied to. It took 8 hours of careful crawling to go four miles, not including the 6 hours of sleep caused by running out of daylight and losing the "road."

Here's the Rock Pile being ascended by someone who wrote a web story about it. Tain't no air here!

And then there was the trek to the Maze Overlook, which sounds all touristy, but which requires 8 hours of determined four-wheeling to reach from the ranger station (which is three hours on paved and graded dirt roads to the next nearest building), going over muddy and rocky trails in a notch at the top of a thousand-foot vertical cliff. "Air time" there takes on a whole new meaning. If you've been to the Maze Overlook, and seen the Chocolate Drops at sunset, then you've been somewhere.

By comparison, the 75 miles of the White Rim Trail was a walk in the park. And the Needles District of Canyonlands NP. And the Burr Trail. And Long Canyon Trail. And...

No, my bone-stock 4-liter Cherokee with Warn winch wasn't intended for showing off. It was intended to get me and my camera to places few others could reach, even in their hopped up CJ's, if they didn't know how.

Rick "needing another trip to the Colorado Plateau but probably taking a motorhome next time" Denney

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:16 am

Rick Denney wrote: Where's the winch?
Air time? What kind of four-wheeler is he? Air time is a sign of mistakes.

I used a portable winch (aka commercial grade come-along.) You're not four wheeling unless you eventually get stuck! A permanently attached winch of sufficient power puts way too much weight past the front axle and adversely affects highway steering on a short wheelbase vehicle.

I agree, when rock crawling or even bogging all the wheels must be on the ground.
BUT, one of the nice things in New Jersey was when it snows, the plows and front end loaders pile up huge mounds of snow in mall and other parking lots. Within a couple of days they freeze near solid, forming these small white mountains. You can either crawl up them and crawl down, or hit em full throttle and hang on for dear life! Heavy duty triangular shaped shackles courtesy of Tomkin Machine kept the suspension from collapsing. The third sleeved grade 5 bolt in the shackle kept the shackle and leaf spring from folding under the frame, unlike the weaker stock 2 bolt shackles. Plus, for added stability the Jeep was never lifted but used wide fiberglass flares instead cut out to fit the modest 31x10.5" tires - achieving virtually the same effect as a body lift but keeping a lower center of gravity. Brand new ball joints helped reduce the chance of a Hummer-esque wheel loss.

SRanney · Post by **SRanney** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:53 pm

Rick Denney wrote: ...
2. Saw a Ford GT-40 this morning. A real one from the old days--the Daytona Coupe with the 427 SCJ side-oiler. That guy also got on it, never broke loose, and affected the rotation of the planet with his transfer of power. I envied him. Deeply.
...

Rick "form follows function" Denney

Can't you also affect the rotation of the planet just by jumping up and down? I'd have to dig up my physics notes to relay the calculations, but I'm pretty certain that's what happens. Of course, energy would be conserved...

I love my non-frufru, 5sp, 4x4 Cherokee and will be using the 4x4 feature much more this winter when I move to SD for grad school.

By the way Rick, great website. I especially like the articles from Triathlete magazines past. Lots of good information on your site - I've spent some time checking it out.

Take care all -

SR

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