altering main tuning slide

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:00 pm

Yes Klaus, I was not being worldly enough by announcing that in the USA, high pitch had been already done in.

As a matter of fact, my own "Mira(ph)one" (and therefor supposedly "Americanized") 184 4U CC was made to European orchestral pitch, and never converted, either. Although I understand that Mira(f)one offered both.

What do you want from a bug that has glass for brains?

As far as the '70s references, what do you want from a BBS that has posts to "bump!", "bump!", "bump!"

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:43 pm

Boy, can't you rednecks get anything right? The correct usage is, "I'd rather be sharp than out of tune... "

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:54 pm

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:04 pm

Doc wrote:I'd rather be sharp than flat ...

Naturally!

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:12 pm

windshieldbug wrote:As far as the '70s references, what do you want from a BBS that has posts to "bump!", "bump!", "bump!"

An occasional "grind" to lighten things up, maybe?

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:24 pm

This becomes kind of funny, as it unwittingly relates to my little provincial coastal town.

I think that the photo quote from the Madonna video is close to 20 years old. Some 10 years ago we had the traffic in downtown KorsÃ¸r (I live in the south-eastern outskirts) changed.

That gave space for a new Havnegrill (Harbour grill bar). Basically it is two adjacent octagons with copper cones as roofs. The street wit beat me to it and came with this name for that bar: Madonnas bryster (translation hardly required).

My home is overloaded with brasses and recorders and then the strings and keyboards. My dog knows the rules, but when I last month was visited by a couple of younger generations, I very much could envision, what 3 minor kids and a dog could do when playing ever so friendly with each others.

So I said:â€œWe will meet downtownâ€

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:26 pm

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:56 pm

Doc wrote:Chuck,

WTF is that?

"All your bases are belong to us"

Almost as universal as Chuck Norris!

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:31 am

windshieldbug wrote:As a matter of fact, my own "Mira(ph)one" (and therefor supposedly "Americanized") 184 4U CC was made to European orchestral pitch, and never converted, either. Although I understand that Mira(f)one offered both.

Did you get this backwards, Michael?

I thought "Miraphone" was the official spelling, and "Mirafone" the Sun-Valley spelling used to try to enhance the Yurrupeanishness of the brand to faddish Americans. In the 60's, of course, we thought American tubas were junk and had to have European instruments.

Rick "who thinks he knows why a 'Miraphone' was built to a European pitch tradition" Denney

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:03 am

The 995 was the last Besson tuba. It was supposedly designed by Nirschel. Somewhere between the design and the execution something happened, I just don't know what. I do know, from reading others who experienced it first hand, that when the Sovereign bell was enlarged from 17 to 19 inches, that two inches of tuning slide had to be cut away as the whole horn became flat from the larger throat on the bell. Now, I don't know how much is in common between the Sov 19 bell BBb tubas and the 995 CC, but it sounds like to me that Nirschel only had input on the valve block, and that after the tooling was changed so the Sovs would play in tune that something was not changed back on the design or execution of the 995. Just my speculation. Moreover, if stretched out straight, a CC tuba is over 16 feet long from receiver to Bell rim. I don't think 2 inches of additional tubing in the main will significantly detract from already less than perfect intonation.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:51 am

Rick Denney wrote: Did you get this backwards, Michael?

Rick "who thinks he knows why a 'Miraphone' was built to a European pitch tradition" Denney

Right, as usual, Rick. I have no excuse, and I should know better. I must've been too excited to use my "bump" reference... I guess I need a better proofreader!

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:33 pm

Hey, Klaus --

Thanks for sharing. It's great to know there are real people among us who have real lives, real families, real friends and real experiences besides the trenches of tubadom. Sounds like a good time was had by all, in spite of the grip on your beard!

Cheers!