Loud LM-7 with a 30H Rim- 1 phenominal mouthpiece/rim combo

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:14 am

I went to ITEC in Denver and got to meet up w Dave at www.bigbrass.com and we have been chatting a while. Great Guy no matter what people tell me,,, LOL. met his wife first,,, Dave got ill at ITEC,,, he kept having to hear Ride of the Valkyrie,,, LOL. Got to meet Dave Houser,,, awesome people all of them.

anyway, Dave wanted me to try a LM-7 for a while, so i did. loved the mpc and hated the rim. played my laskey 30H against it and hands down i played better on the LM-7 just could not handle the rim. i did not miss a note w it and put the laskey in,,, popped notes. so i ask them if they can copy my 30H rim and put it on the LM-7. Dave said he would give it a try. I left my 1 and only 30H with him.

well i had a poker/rally run w some HHR friends, went to a car show and then Keller's, pure automotive testosterone day and amazing cept not as many showed up. 65 miles and around 128 turns and on 33 miles there was 63 of the total turns and i get home around 10 pm. i am bushed and the mpc came in.

tired and all i drag out my Laskey 30H and the LM-7 w the 30H rim. unfreaking real. man this mouthpiece combo is a real winner. i would play something on the LM-7 and then 30H. no comparison. i do low high low octave slurs and do them around 90 for flexibility,,, no cracked notes. i did a one octave slur and then went up another octave and then back down 2 octaves, no cracked notes. unreal. i did a chromatic scale starting on double pedal F and went to Bb one octave above the staff,,, all way too easy. tired as i was, i was having a blast on my 191.

sound- very nice and centered, notes place easy and lots of core and focused compared to the 30H i have been using for 5 years.

feel of the stainless- i washed it and i like it. i do not feel like i need vasaline now and the dark silver color is very nice and there are pics of both mpcs below

fit and feel of the base and removable rim- cant tell it is removable. i checked the inside cup diameter and rim diameter with a digital caliper and no difference and feel while playing is no difference

i can not sing praises enough about this mpc, this is hands down a winner and in stainless it is going to be around for a while.

if you play a 30H,,,, you need try and you want to buy this mpc. you will not like your 30H after you try this LM-7/30H combo

Thank you Dave Houser and Dave Amason.

http://www.bigbrass.com/
email: dave@bigbrass.com

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:40 am

I was just informed that the mouthpiece will be a LM-7/26H rim
if you like a Laskey 30H, you need try this mpc.

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:11 pm

JohnH wrote:I'd like to try this. I've been using the LM-7 with the Helleberg rim. I found the original rim too rounded to suit me, but the Helleberg is a bit too much the other way.

i tried the same set up there at ITEC, took off the stock rim, and another player there had a LM-7 w a Helleberg rim and i felt the exact same way and why i asked Dave Houser to do this. the laskey 30H rim is comfortable, enough bite to work and it is hard to get tired using it.

i know mouthpieces dont work w everyone,,, if anyone knows this I do, but if you like the 30H rim then the LM-7 is wonderful.

MichaelDenney · Post by **MichaelDenney** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:48 pm

CJ,
Thanks for the heads-up. I have an LM-7 with the original rim and was about to order the Helleberg rim, with which I probably would have had issues judging from the reports above. The 30H type rim may be just the ticket for me too.

Bye the bye, this piece works great for me on my BBb Holton 345.

Michael

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:27 pm

Mine is a screw rim but i think they are going to do it in a solid 1 piece to make it more reasonable

i would give Dave at www.bigbrass.com a call

w or w/o the screw rim this is a keeper

made me actually want to play my tuba for fun. i was rippin on the region music and oh so nice. did some of my favorite solo licks and can not believe how smooth this is and easy to play in the upper register. love the sound as well.

its real heavy, its a Loud and i really am not fond of heavyweight mpcs but this is a great mpc and deserves trying out

i am really liking the way the stainless feels. slides easy and just silky comfortable. this is the best Helleberg style mpc i have ever played on.

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:38 pm

MichaelDenney wrote: Bye the bye, this piece works great for me on my BBb Holton 345.
Michael

kicks butt on my 191 BBb
5+ range

Naptown Tuba · Post by **Naptown Tuba** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:48 pm

Well, I'll chime in with my 2 cents worth here. I just got an LM-3 a few months ago and "WOW!!" It opened up my low end like crazy!! I use it on my 5/4 CC and I've got pedals tones I've never had before!! (And if you read the ad on the website - yes, I'm man enough for it) At the time, I was considering switching to a 6/4 horn, but didn't care for the poor intonation of the horn (not to mention the added amount of air required.) So, with this new mouthpiece, I kept my horn but am getting the kind of sound out of it that I always wished I could.
I can still play the soft passages soft. but can make it sound like a big gun when I need to. The intonation is still great and I didn't lose any range in the high end, either. It's the best mouthpiece I've found yet. It's not for everyone, but with my full embouchure, I seem to do much better with a large mouthpiece; and boy, does this one fill the bill!! Thanks Joe!

MichaelDenney · Post by **MichaelDenney** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:29 pm

I was messing around with the screw rim on my LM-7 yesterday and found that I could screw it out a fair amount without it leaking. In principle I suppose it is somewhat like Mr. Jacob's variable-depth mouthpiece that was made for him by Renold Schilke, except there is a gap under the rim and the player behind it is a rank amateur. Plus this one goes from a very deep cup to a very, very, very deep cup rather than through a more useable range of depths. Some medium frequency noise appears if you unscrew it extremely far--probably vibration between the rim and cup elements--so there is a limit. Lots of fun to honk on.

Lew · Post by **Lew** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:26 am

I have been using an LM-6 with the Helleberg rim on my King 1291 (Bill Bell Model) BBb. Did you try the LM 6 with this too? I may have to get this rim just to try it out.

jjelwood · Post by **jjelwood** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:02 pm

Is the rim on that you had made similar to a Schilke-Helleberg II rim. I currently play on that mouthpiece. Also, nice rides, I love the HHR, that is awesome!

Jerry Elwood

MW2145

jjelwood · Post by **jjelwood** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:08 pm

Is this rim (Laskey 30H) similar to a Schilke-Helleberg II rim. Also, I love the HHR, it is awesome!

Jerry Elwood
MW2145

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:53 am

I'm probably not going to purchase the mouthpiece/rim combination as I am happy with what I have, but I wholeheartedly encourage the production of rims in Lexan. I use a Kelly 18 outdoors, and I no longer have to worry about searing my chops to medium rare on Independence Day or freeze drying them for stir fry during the Christmas parade.

Moreover, my young son is allergic/hypersensitive to metal, so in a few years I may be purchasing one for him, instead of a DEG or Kelly.

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:17 am

jjelwood wrote:Is the rim on that you had made similar to a Schilke-Helleberg II rim. I currently play on that mouthpiece. Also, nice rides, I love the HHR, that is awesome!
Jerry Elwood
MW2145

its been so long since i played a SHII. the SHII is narrower for sure. the cup is very similar

i played a str8 LM7 and hated the rim, not the same at all. tried the reg helleberg rim and it was ok butt i like the 30H better.

played in lessons all day today and still liking the mpc alot w this rim. changed between the 30H and the LM7/26H and still like the overall sound and feel of this mpc

thanks on the compliment on my HHR. Shaggy has won 10 car shows and 2- 2nds and 2- no places. the no places were at participant judged contests w too many of their club friends there.

if i enter a show that is judged by real judges and i usually do well, usually 1st or 2nd.

the sound system is unreal. XR-650 Csi's in front and back seats and 12X3 in the rear.... 3- 300/2 driving each front set, back set and sub. i really love it,,,, sounds live all the time.

stock h/u for now till onstar is gone in Oct then a Pioneer 9800BT going in to make it all sing.

i did all the stereo myself, took me 40 hours and alot of learning

and if you look close you can see a ghosted bass clef w a decrescendo attached to it on both side doors going from front to back door handle

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2246814

poomshanka · Post by **poomshanka** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:55 pm

For anyone interested, I have some of these new rims in stock. They're $75, and for the inventory I have on hand, I'll include shipping.

...Dave

jjelwood · Post by **jjelwood** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:34 pm

I am looking forward to purchasing a Loud Mouthpiece. Has anyone else tried or used this new combination. I use a Schilke-Helleberg II and wondered how they would compare.