arbans method

tubabuddha · Post by **tubabuddha** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:18 am

does it come in a b bflat version if it doesn't would it be better to just get the trombone version and take down the octave??

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:41 am

Yes, it does, but the trombone down an octave works just fine, too (that's the way I did it)

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:04 am

Or get the cornet version, save some money, and use trumpet fingerings on any key tuba.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:08 am

Chuck(G) wrote:use trumpet fingerings

... but then you have to walk up to people and say,"I can play better than you!".

Onebaplayer · Post by **Onebaplayer** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:39 am

hmm.. i use the trumpet book.. maybe thats why i've felt the need to lift weights every time i want to increase my range.

Tubaguy56 · Post by **Tubaguy56** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:31 am

I've never seen a complete tuba version of arbans....and the trombone one doesn't have the duets.....so, trumpet is best i suppose....

tubabuddha · Post by **tubabuddha** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:00 am

where can i find it
i havne't found it yet
i think??

Tubaguy56 · Post by **Tubaguy56** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:52 am

most music stores have it....I mean, they do call it the "bible"

corbasse · Post by **corbasse** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:05 am

Maybe search for the right name? The guy's name is Arban not arbanS

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:51 am

When people use an 's', its possesive, ie: Arban's Method

TonyZ · Post by **TonyZ** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:57 am

windshieldbug wrote:When people use an 's', its possesive, ie: Arban's Method

...and I am VERY possesive about my Arban's!

TonyZ · Post by **TonyZ** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:00 am

I do, however agree with Wes Jacobs' assertion that younger players particularly should be reading the actual notes they are playing. I still wish they wouldn't have transposed it. Not many beginners play CC tuba.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:06 am

TonyZ wrote:I do, however agree with Wes Jacobs' assertion that younger players particularly should be reading the actual notes they are playing. I still wish they wouldn't have transposed it. Not many beginners play CC tuba.

??? The treble clef book is in Bb already!

TonyZ · Post by **TonyZ** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:17 am

Correct, but for example, exercise 11 in the original is in Eb concert (F Major for trumpet,) but the tuba Arban's (no. 11 also) is in F concert. They transposed it up a step so that it better fits GENERALLY with the CC tuba. They simply transposed the trumpet book down 2 octaves from written pitch, so it is sounding a step higher than the trumpet (the octave displacement being understood.) My grump is why didn't they leave it at concert pitch. Simply, it becomes more CC tuba friendly. Some of the early exercises end up in G concert, which isn't typically where youngsters on BBb tubas play. Not that they shouldn't, but it doesn't fit with most beginning curricula.

Clear as mud, eh?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:30 am

TonyZ wrote: Clear as mud, eh?

No, you described it well, here. I used the Cornet and the Trombone books, and have never even seen the tuba. I just assumed it was an octave drop from the Trombone. It does seem strange...

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:35 am

So, you want it in a different key? Transpose it yourself. That way you get transposition exercise and experience along with the playing.

TonyZ · Post by **TonyZ** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:42 am

iiipopes wrote:So, you want it in a different key? Transpose it yourself. That way you get transposition exercise and experience along with the playing.

Again, correct, for the advanced player. For the beginner, however, it doesn't wash. Arban's is a lifelong learning adventure. Transposing from day one is not practical.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:52 pm

TonyZ wrote:Again, correct, for the advanced player. For the beginner, however, it doesn't wash. Arban's is a lifelong learning adventure. Transposing from day one is not practical.

Maybe, maybe not. My wife teaches beginners on flute. She'll have the young 'uns come to a lesson with a song they know well and ask them to play it in several keys. (no written music is involved) It seems that transposing isn't terribly hard if taught early on.

My wife thinks that it also encourages one to think about the "shape" of a melody rather than how it's fingered on an instrument.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:17 pm

Scooby Tuba wrote:Yet another flute/tuba household!

Don't knock it! After years of waltzing to gigs with her flute, my wife has become tuba roadie extrordinairre (to my eternal gratitude!)

Tubaguy56 · Post by **Tubaguy56** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:52 am

G-A-S-P I am all over buying that, mine is ancient so I don't get the duets...