Ivesian.

thedeep42 · Post by **thedeep42** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:19 pm

I had no idea till I read the liner notes on a Charles Ives disk I got that something could be Ivesian. Can I be Ivesian? I don't know. However, some of the parts in Three Places in New England and Symphony #4 sound like they could have some interesting tuba moments. Do these come up fairly often on symphony shows? I am becoming a bigger and bigger fan of all things Ives, from songs to the Concorde Piano Sonata (if you EVER hear of anyone performing that, I don't care if it's Easter Island's most famous pianist...Let me know). Where could I get tuba parts from Ives' symphonic work? Anything in the torchinsky's?

May your days ever be Ivesian.

also, on a completely unrelated note.. if anyone has the part for Revueltas' Sensemaya, I'd REALLY like to get a look at that. let me know if you have any leads...the online gods have not yielded it to my pleas.

tubajoe · Post by **tubajoe** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:58 pm

Listen to the Chicago Sym w/Tilson Thomas recording of Ives Sym #4.
Rex Martin practically parts the sea in the loud chaotic part.
Also -- the 4th Symphony was partially edited by a tuba player, Ken Singleton.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:29 am

"Ivesian?" No, thank you. My days are filled with enough cacaphony as it is!

tubajoe · Post by **tubajoe** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:32 am

"Beauty in music is too often confused with something that lets the ears lie back in an easy chair."
-Charles Ives

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:35 am

Another good CD of Ives music is the one with the St. Louis Symphony with Leonard Slatkin. It's all Ives, so there's Three Places in New England, and The Unanswered Question along with Central Park in the Dark. There are some prominent tuba parts in the 2nd mvmnt. of the Three Places, and they are fairly well-mixed in with the sound of the CD, (i.e., you can actually hear the parts.)

kegmcnabb · Post by **kegmcnabb** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:22 am

tubajoe wrote:"Beauty in music is too often confused with something that lets the ears lie back in an easy chair."
-Charles Ives

Ah, one of my favorite quotes concerning music. Thanks, tubajoe.

Dennis K. · Post by **Dennis K.** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:58 am

The Slatkin/St.Louis CD is terrific.
There is a CD of songs for voice and piano that is wonderfully inventive, both in the music and the poetry.
I would also highly recommend the book Essays Before A Sonata. A collection of his writings - a fascinating man - so interesting, yet he managed to come up with the idea of insurance...
Why is it that whenever I type the word "insurance" I immediately look for a little barfy emoticon?
Today's insurance is a far cry from what Ives envisioned...

circusboy · Post by **circusboy** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:21 pm

I'm rather fond of this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Charles-Ives-Univ ... F8&s=music

kegmcnabb · Post by **kegmcnabb** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:05 pm

kegmcnabb wrote:
tubajoe wrote:"Beauty in music is too often confused with something that lets the ears lie back in an easy chair."
-Charles Ives
Ah, one of my favorite quotes concerning music. Thanks, tubajoe.

Sorry to stay somewhat off-topic but my other favorite music/beauty quote is this one....

"You can't always write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say, so
sometimes you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream." - Frank Zappa

Of course, Zappa was a big fan of Ives.

thedeep42 · Post by **thedeep42** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:08 pm

great quotes folks. i have stolen them for my own reportoire of wit.

Are Ives excerpts ever studied or printed in collections (thinking tuba of course)? Or do you just learn them when they come along?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:21 pm

thedeep42 wrote:Are Ives excerpts ever studied or printed in collections (thinking tuba of course)? Or do you just learn them when they come along?

A lot of Ives' work is rental only.

sc_curtis · Post by **sc_curtis** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:10 am

Speaking of Ives, the Houston Symphony played Variations on America this evening on the 1st half of the concert. Dave sounded great. I believe he played on his Nirschl (it was the PT6 last weekend for Scheherazade and Festive Overture, which he sounded equally awesome on).

This concert was kind of a bust, Randy Travis and his group was there for the 2nd half. I guess the orchestra was playing along, I saw people with horns up and lots of bows moving, but almost nothing was heard over the stuff up front that had a mic.

Lots of people in the audience, though, that you could tell were not usual symphony-goers! Gotta fill the seats somehow!

SplatterTone · Post by **SplatterTone** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:15 am

Gotta fill the seats somehow!

Play naked!

sc_curtis · Post by **sc_curtis** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:27 am

SplatterTone wrote: Play naked!

That may scare them off!

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