Oystein Baadsvik in Carnegie Hall December 13, 2006
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Oystein Baadsvik in Carnegie Hall December 13, 2006
For any fans of Oystein out there, he will be performing in Carnegie Hall December 13, 2006:
http://miniurl.org/yf2
Tickets went on sale yesterday and I am sure will go quite quickly!
From the descirption of the recital, he will be playing several pieces from his new CD.
Pardon the Plug: CD available here http://www.bvdpress.com/
Take care,
http://miniurl.org/yf2
Tickets went on sale yesterday and I am sure will go quite quickly!
From the descirption of the recital, he will be playing several pieces from his new CD.
Pardon the Plug: CD available here http://www.bvdpress.com/
Take care,
Bryan Doughty
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I am not the type buying CD’s for the sake of listening to brass soloists. I solely go by musical criteriae.
However I happened to hear Oystein Baadsvik play a movement from Gordon Jacob’s sonata, suite, or whatever on Danish classical radio.
I was totally convinced by his extremely musical playing. It almost sounded, as if he was playing a real tuba (which is an instrument with piston valves). He very likely played a rotary substitution for a tuba. But then he did so extremely well.
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
However I happened to hear Oystein Baadsvik play a movement from Gordon Jacob’s sonata, suite, or whatever on Danish classical radio.
I was totally convinced by his extremely musical playing. It almost sounded, as if he was playing a real tuba (which is an instrument with piston valves). He very likely played a rotary substitution for a tuba. But then he did so extremely well.
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
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Hi Klaus,
Can you explain the above, because I have no idea what you mean????imperialbari wrote: I was totally convinced by his extremely musical playing. It almost sounded, as if he was playing a real tuba (which is an instrument with piston valves). He very likely played a rotary substitution for a tuba. But then he did so extremely well.
Bryan Doughty
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that our friend Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre is attempting to stir the pot a bit.imperialbari wrote: It almost sounded, as if he was playing a real tuba (which is an instrument with piston valves). He very likely played a rotary substitution for a tuba. But then he did so extremely well.
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
I would never do such a thing.
PISTONS RULE!
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Hopefully that part came through where I expressed my respect for the musicality of Oystein Baadsvik’s playing.
The rest was part of an ever-recurrent discussion about the differences between instruments with pistons and with rotors.
In my not always very humble opinion the differences are so noticeable, that I personally consider instruments of either valve type as different species of instruments.
Some talk about oval euphoniums. In my vocabulary there doesn’t exist an oval euphonium. It would be a Bariton/baryton (German and Danish spellings) or a Kaiserbariton/kejserbaryton. I have two of these in Bb and C respectively. They are fine for melodious playing, for the high countermelodies in German marches, and for extremely fast legato playing. But they are not even approaching the versatility of the modern compensating euphonium, which has a much wider dynamic range, and which responds predictably to a much wider spectre of articulations.
With the tuba the terminology is trickier, as all of my 3 main languages use the term of tuba (Tuba in German). Yet I feel there is a huge difference between the rotary and the piston samples.
I find the rotary ones, I have tried and have heard, to stiffen up variety in tongued playing. I greatly prefer the piston valved tubas, which I find supportive towards the emulation of some string instruments’ articulations.
The likelihood that Oystein Baadsvik performed on a piston instrument is not predominant. So when he played some passages in this wonderfully elegant bouncing and dancing style, then my admiration for his musicality certainly was boosted.
That my shorthand wording comes out edgy to somebody not acquainted with my style of writing and with my basic views is a risk to be taken from time to time.
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre,
who wrote a recent posting on the same valve topic
The rest was part of an ever-recurrent discussion about the differences between instruments with pistons and with rotors.
In my not always very humble opinion the differences are so noticeable, that I personally consider instruments of either valve type as different species of instruments.
Some talk about oval euphoniums. In my vocabulary there doesn’t exist an oval euphonium. It would be a Bariton/baryton (German and Danish spellings) or a Kaiserbariton/kejserbaryton. I have two of these in Bb and C respectively. They are fine for melodious playing, for the high countermelodies in German marches, and for extremely fast legato playing. But they are not even approaching the versatility of the modern compensating euphonium, which has a much wider dynamic range, and which responds predictably to a much wider spectre of articulations.
With the tuba the terminology is trickier, as all of my 3 main languages use the term of tuba (Tuba in German). Yet I feel there is a huge difference between the rotary and the piston samples.
I find the rotary ones, I have tried and have heard, to stiffen up variety in tongued playing. I greatly prefer the piston valved tubas, which I find supportive towards the emulation of some string instruments’ articulations.
The likelihood that Oystein Baadsvik performed on a piston instrument is not predominant. So when he played some passages in this wonderfully elegant bouncing and dancing style, then my admiration for his musicality certainly was boosted.
That my shorthand wording comes out edgy to somebody not acquainted with my style of writing and with my basic views is a risk to be taken from time to time.
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre,
who wrote a recent posting on the same valve topic
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To me, it is a like a pair of black or white shoes. It is a just an individual preferance. Then again, if you have some samples by the same player playing both piston and rotary I would love to listen and try to hear what you hear!imperialbari wrote:
With the tuba the terminology is trickier, as all of my 3 main languages uses the term of tuba (Tuba in German). Yet I feel there is a huge difference between the rotary and the piston samples.
Bryan Doughty
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This isn't meant to flippant, but when you find some samples I would love to hear what you are hearing.imperialbari wrote:To my knowledge none of the top-league players proficient on both valve systems have sound samples made available on the web.
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
To my ears, both playing and listening, I have never heard a fifference. It does take a little time to get used to how each plays, but once you get past that...
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Re:
Just ordered my tickets. After seeing Oystein in Denver, this was a no brainer.
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It means that Klaus has his preferences, believes they are universal truths, and writes as if he assumes everyone agrees with him - while, in fact, he's itchin' for a fight.BVD Press wrote:Hi Klaus,
Can you explain the above, because I have no idea what you mean????imperialbari wrote: I was totally convinced by his extremely musical playing. It almost sounded, as if he was playing a real tuba (which is an instrument with piston valves). He very likely played a rotary substitution for a tuba. But then he did so extremely well.
Kenneth Sloan