Double tounging

geomiklas · Post by **geomiklas** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:51 pm

In regular tonguing, we almost make the sound "tah". Similar to "tah" is the sound "cah" which is the letter "C" sound in the word "Cat". Now put them together, alternating "tah" "cah" "tah" "cah" "tah" "cah" "tah" "cah" "tah" "cah" Get this going as the eighth notes in Stars And Stripes Forever at 120 beats per minute.

Triple tonguing is similar. John Turk taught "tah" "dee" "cah" but I had a lot of difficulty with that (and still do). Instead, I use "tah" "cah" "tah" and I can get that going pretty fast despite the back-to-back "tah"s.

Good Luck!

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:51 pm

I'm sure someone will answer your actual question,so I feel free to make a smartass,cheap shot type comment

Though it's certainly awe-inspiring to hear guys like Pat Sheridan and Oystein do their thing, I in 25 years of playing,half of which at a reasonably high,semi-pro(whatever that means) level, have NEVER needed to double tongue.I have a fast,clean single tongue and pick my solos strategicly.I can double tongue,but to do it with the authority i like to have in my articulaions,would just take more of my limited practice time than its worth.What I'm trying to say is, if you want to be a serious tuba player,this should be about 25-30th on your list of issues to conquer.On the other hand,you probably won't find a full time pro tubist who can't multiple tongue well.This whole thing assumes you're a tubist.If you're a euphist,you must be able to multiple tongue as part of your job description.

mikehorsford · Post by **mikehorsford** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:24 pm

once you get it down you can kill two birds with one stone. try practicing scale patterns and arpeggios with multiple tonguing.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:23 pm

Yeah, all of that.

But it might help to start out by double-tonguing dotted rhythms first. That is, dotted sixteenth-32nd. Slowly work to even the notes out to straight sixteenths.

One of those weird things about the way the mind works.

For triple-tonguing, I use du-du-gu--for some reason, I can do it faster than du-gu-du, even though if you're triple-tonguing more than a single triplet, the patterns work out to be the same.

More strange mind stuff.

Just practice, on and off the horn saying the syllables. After awhile, it'll become second nature.

geomiklas · Post by **geomiklas** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:28 pm

tubazar wrote:"Thank you for using the TubeNet Virtual Lesson System."

Better Idea: Go take a lesson with someone in person, they should be able to help you much more easily.

Not too keen on distance learning are ya....It does take some getting used to.

GM

Yama861 · Post by **Yama861** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:41 pm

Recently I have been working my way through the Rubank Advanced Method. It has both double & triple tounguing excercises. Interestingly, it does triple, first & then goes to double.

XtremeEuph · Post by **XtremeEuph** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:46 pm

Yes, As I dont find the Rubanks very well organized, I must agree thats the order most professionals feel is easier to learn with. The Arbans does the same......of course most of us are too lazy (like me) and just want to learn how to play their double tonguing songs first before even touching triple. On the other hand, my double tonguing sucks, I can barely beat blokes suggested single tonguing speed.