Late greats of the tuba

GC · Post by GC » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:42 pm

Who do you consider to be the late greats of the tuba? I'd start with:

August Helleberg
Fred Geib
Bill Bell
Arnold Jacobs
Tommy Johnson

Please be careful not to add names of the non-departed.

ASTuba · Post by **ASTuba** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:44 pm

John Fletcher has to be on there.

djwesp · Post by **djwesp** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:57 pm

Ionel Dimitru or however you spell it.

Ed Jones · Post by **Ed Jones** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:36 pm

That's Ionel Dimitru an yes, he was a great one. Add Joe Tarto, Johnny Richardson and my personal favorite Everett Gilmore. I'm sure I will think of more with a good night's sleep.

chipster55 · Post by **chipster55** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:54 pm

Ditto for Mr. Gilmore - a truly nice human being and a great tuba player.

brianf · Post by **brianf** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:34 am

You have to start with this list, those who have recieved ITEA's highest award:

Lifetime Achievement Members

Tuba
William Bell
Roger Bobo
John H. Butler
Don Butterfield
Philip Catelinet
Rex Conner
Ionel Dumitru
John Fletcher
Vaclav Hoza
Arnold Jacobs
Tommy Johnson
David Kuehn
Michael Lind
R. Winston Morris
Dan Perantoni
Harvey Phillips
Zdzislaw Piernik
Chester Roberts
Robert Ryker
Kurahei Sato
Jim Self
Henry Charles Smith III
Donald Stanley
LÃ¡szlo SzÃ¡bo
Vilmos SzÃ¡bo
Abe Torchinsky
Robert Tucci
Constance (Connie) Weldon
Raymond Young

Euphonium
Brian L. Bowman
Leonard Falcone
Arthur Lehman
Earle Louder
Rich Matteson

Manufacturers
Peter Hirsbrunner
Willy Kurath
Anton Meinl

Composers
Walter Hartley
Alexi Lebedev
Alec Wilder
John Williams

Sorry the links did not come through to get to their biographies, this came from http://www.windsongpress.com/brass%20pl ... layers.htm

djwesp · Post by **djwesp** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:55 am

Ed Jones wrote:That's Ionel Dimitru an yes, he was a great one. Add Joe Tarto, Johnny Richardson and my personal favorite Everett Gilmore. I'm sure I will think of more with a good night's sleep.

Well it is...

Ionel Dumitru

But you were a heck of a lot closer than I was.

Jeffrey Hicks · Post by **Jeffrey Hicks** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:24 am

Fred Marzan...

Richard Murrow · Post by **Richard Murrow** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:24 am

Ditto on those listed. My personal favorite, John Fletcher!

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:30 pm

From Los Angeles I have to mention Red Calender and John Swain. Two very kind gentleman who were so quietly important to tubists everywhere.

AndyL · Post by **AndyL** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:08 pm

John "the Chief" Kuhn should make the list as an "early great".

He played with Sousa and Isham Jones.

Anybody know what became of him after that?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:03 pm

Philip Donatelli, tubist for the Philadelphia Orchestra, for whom the CSO Yorks were made.

Simone Mantia, euphonium soloist extraordinaire.

Stephen Shoop · Post by **Stephen Shoop** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:23 pm

I understand that August Helleberg, Jr. and John Helleberg (August Helleberg's sons) were also excellent players in their own right.

Stephen Shoop · Post by **Stephen Shoop** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:25 pm

Harvey Phillips speaks very highly of Johnny Evans-- fellow tuba player in the Barnum and Bailey Circus Band.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:30 pm

Student of Bill Bell, and my teacher, Irving H. Cohen.

Trust me, if Irv could teach me, then he could teach anybody. And it may not mean much to anyone else, but I sure miss him.

eupher61 · Post by **eupher61** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:47 pm

you beat me to it...Singleton Palmer, what a helluva player. Incredibly nice man too, a great friend for a brief period.

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:51 pm

He may not be known to that many people, but a "late great" to me is Dr. John Hubbard. He passed about a year and a half ago, and he has left a huge impact on me. He also had the distinction of being a good friend of Ed Kleinhammer, as well as an acquaintance of Arnold Jacobs. As Dr. Hubbard put it, "I am the only person who did not get a lesson from Jake in the time that I knew him!" He was a great bass trombonist, but his real-life job was as a neurosurgeon. As his friend Dr. Griffith told it, him and Dr. Hubbard got drunk one night in college and decided to become brain surgeons! Before that, he was a music major, playing trombone and piano. One of the lasting lessons I got from him was in my first lesson, where he said, "Without a doubt, the hardest song you'll ever have to play is 'O Isis and Osiris.'" And, he was right! In his last couple of months, he started to get rid of a bunch of the stuff that he had accumulated over the years, including a wall of records, six full file-cabinets of music, and a mountain of CD's. He gave me an old Conn tuba he had, a 4J, which I plan to hold on to for a long, long time. All in all, he was one of the biggest influences on me, and I hold him in high regard along with all of the others who have come before.

Tubanese · Post by **Tubanese** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:44 am

Please don't forget:

Mike Roylance
Sam Pilafian
Pat Sheridan
Gary Ofenloch
Toby Hanks(Great teacher!)
Ken Amis
etc....

jeopardymaster · Post by **jeopardymaster** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:29 pm

The list isn't complete without Sam Green and Phil Catelinet.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:22 pm

Tubanese wrote:Please don't forget:

Mike Roylance
Sam Pilafian
Pat Sheridan
Gary Ofenloch
Toby Hanks(Great teacher!)
Ken Amis
etc....

How many of them are "late?"

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