3/4 CC Tubas?

Tubadork · Post by **Tubadork** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm

Hey,
getzen made the CB50, but they don't make it anymore. You can find them used. There is even one here available:
viewtopic.php?t=18315&highlight=getzen

Miraphone 184 is a good 5 valve 3/4 CC

Kanstul is working on a 5 valve 3/4 CC, Scott Mendoker will be playing it at the conference. You can contact Lee Stofer about it:
http://www.tubameister.com/

I think that is all that is out there. There are also a handful of 4 valve 3/4 CC's

like the yamaha 621CC, old conn 3J's weril makes a small CC (BBC has one used).

Good luck,
Bill

circusboy · Post by **circusboy** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:17 pm

Rudolph Meinl makes a 3/4 CC 5 valve that's a great horn.

. . . keeping in mind that what Rudy Meinl calls a 3/4 is what most other makers call a 4/4 . . .

circus "saving his back with a 184" boy

Yama861 · Post by **Yama861** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:37 pm

Don't forget the Mirafone 185!

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:40 pm

The Yamaha 621 CC tuba is small and nimble. Some players have had a fifth valve added by a repairman, so it looks like their 621 F 5-valve tuba. Cost of the additional valve is in the vicinity of $1000. I have heard speculation that Yamaha wants to keep this tuba light, and not weigh it down with the extra metal for a fifth valve.

The Rudy 3/4 CC tuba is the same size as everyone else's 4/4 tuba. And, their 5/4 BBb and CC tubas are the same size as everyone else's 6/4 tubas. Now you know the correction factor to be added to Rudy's sizing.

Cheers,
Allen

Lee Stofer · Post by **Lee Stofer** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:55 pm

Once again, there IS a 5-valve, 3/4 CC tuba. The new Kanstul CTU902/5C is enroute East at this moment, to be displayed at Ft. Myer, VA next week. It was shown at the Winter NAMM Show in Anaheim yesterday, where it was well-received. The show model has a screw-bell, so it can be stowed in two flat cases, a high-tech new rotor, and modular construction for ease of manufacturing, maintenance and repairs.

For years, I played a Rudolf Meinl 3/4 CC, but it is a 3/4 tuba in the same way that Texas is an average-sized State (!) I like big small tubas.

I would not really consider the Cerveny Piggy model to be a 3/4 tuba, but a large-ish 4/4 that is really compactly-wrapped. I understand that Mirafone is still making the 184, but do not know the availability or price of one. It is a shame that Getzen discontinued the G-50/CB-50, but they cannot be expected to continue to produce an instrument that is not sufficiently profitable for them. Alexander has made a smaller 5-valve CC that plays well, but they are seldom seen.

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:29 am

I still hold that the best determination of what x/4 size a tuba is is best determined by "how much water would this sucker hold"?By that test the Getzen,though short,is every bit a 4/4.Of course this isn't an exact science,but anything with that big a bell just can't be the same species as a 621 or 184.I would definitely add the conn 2j to the mix(the 3j could be debated).Its great to have so many tubas of today and yesteryear to pick from

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:56 am

184 defined this market, and continues to be the benchmark IMHO

tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:12 pm

Winsheildbug wrote, "184 defined this market, and continues to be the benchmark IMHO"

I'm with you, although mine is a BBb. I keep buying horns to replace the old rag but I always sell them and go back to the 184. The last casualty was very nice 621. Nice enough horn, but not a 184. My old Ernst David is really a cool horn as well but makes me work too hard.