Why do brass players read magazines in rehearsal?

pianolance · Post by **pianolance** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:41 pm

Huh??? Dude, decrease the dosage on the cough syrup a little.

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:30 pm

keg84 wrote:
At least at my school (U of Montana), brass, low brass in peticular, at the best musicians with the best ears, best time, and the best musical idea/image of the piece. Thats just how it works, mostly....

However true this may be, I would guess that the low brass players at University of Montana have a D average from the English department.

As a fellow college student attending a large (far larger than Montana) state university, I have a request. Please do not make students who are attempting to earn a degree from a state college or university appear any dumber. We already have enough of an image problem stemming from the snobbery of students who attend private institutions.

Drbuzzz · Post by **Drbuzzz** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:53 pm

According to the last line of the "Low Brass Credo":

"because...you can _______ read!"

Jobey Wilson · Post by **Jobey Wilson** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:37 am

Wow...this is hilarious! Amen, Elephant!!
The first person I ever saw reading in an orchestra was a member of one of the most prestigious orchestras in the world, a teacher at one of the most prestigious music schools in the US, and this was at, again, one of the most prestigious music festivals in the US...long story short, I have no problem DISCREETLY pulling out a book or magazine in a rehearsal, and until now, I have NEVER heard anyone ever mention a problem with it. If you're in school, you probably are not playing a symphony that you've already performed 10 times, so i definitely do NOT recommend ever reading during a rehearsal there...it's been a while, but I'm actually having a hard time thinking of too many wind ensemble pieces that even give you enough time to think about picking up a book. Of course, as Mr. Carlson mentioned about Philly, if the personnel manager says "no reading on stage," don't do it...unless you simply enjoy unemployment...but as i said, this is the first time I've ever heard anyone fuss about it...jobey

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:35 am

Why do brass players read magazines in rehearsal?

Because they are not allowed to bring crayons on stage.

tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:40 am

the elephant wrote:If we want people to "Support Live Music" (1$ to the AFM) then we must look the part when we play or tickets holders will just spend their $$$ on CDs and audio equipment.

Even when we look the part and play the part I worry about the future of live classical music. I play with a very good amatuer orchestra, Mahler 4; Borodin, Overture to Prince Igor; Glazanov, Finnish Fantasy, next week. We can't draw an audience in suburban Atlanta at $10 to $20 per. It's all very discouraging

I also play with a very good amatuer quintet who regularly plays to 1000+, because we play churches. This is a great gig. Good music, appreciative audience.

eupher61 · Post by **eupher61** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:15 pm

one second-tier orchestra's season PR poster, maybe 20 years ago now, had a great shot of the conductor/MD in full blown Romantic-convulsive posture, arms waving, shirt coming untucked and hair flying, resin flying off the bows, every player intense and focused...

Including the bass bone and tuba players, leaning toward each other over their instruments and talking.

That was the poster to advertise the season.

Fortunately, things are different in that group now, although those two personnel remain.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:03 pm

MartyNeilan wrote:
Why do brass players read magazines in rehearsal?
Because they are not allowed to bring crayons on stage.

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:11 pm

keg84 wrote:
Biggs wrote:
As a fellow college student attending a large (far larger than Montana) state university, I have a request. Please do not make students who are attempting to earn a degree from a state college or university appear any dumber. We already have enough of an image problem stemming from the snobbery of students who attend private institutions.

Stick to Journalism.

For once, I just wish that for once, unstead of people flaming for bad grammer, they would actually read the post and comment on the content of the words, not the mispelling or imperfections in the writing. As for you Bigs, as a fellow college student, why do students working for a degree seem "dumb" to you? I kinda think a image problem with you is a little more likely. Plus snobbery, as you hopefully know, is about feeling as if your better than someone else, and thats kinda hard to pull off.. if your "dumb". And who the hell are the people saying college kids are snobby. The older and uneducated, uhh. people who can't afford. You tell me
People communicate in different styles.
Dont read in rehersals.
Dont name your truck after Mortal Kombat girls

Excellent research; have you considered pursuing a career in journalism? Editors tend to think highly of reporters willing to do their own digging.

I agree with your point that people communicate in different styles. However, when your 'style' of communication is so dense, confusing, and downright ignorant of accepted convention that it becomes difficult for your audience to understand your message, you have wasted your time and energy as a communicator.

State schools are under a government mandate to accept a certain percentage of applicants and have minimal control over their acceptance standards. I refuse to speculate on how certain students arrived at their respective institutions; instead I am grateful for the opportunity given to students like myself to access affordable higher education. My concern is that, as a direct result of their diminished acceptance standards, state schools will be overrun with students of limited capacity who, in turn, serve as poor representatives for their schools in public forums such as this.

On an unrelated note, my truck (technically, my former truck) was named after a character in Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:57 pm

This is getting downright entertaining. I know I am far from perfect in spelling, or grammar. Tubop and Biggs have spoken well. Doc has pointed out how this topic has been previously discussed. The point is rather simple, here. On TubeNet, one is not expected to avoid all spelling errors. Nor is one expected to use perfect grammar. However, when your words and spelling make it dificult for someone else to understand, you'd best be prepared to put on your heat shield. The flames will follow soon.

To keg84, my advise would be to work on improving those skills. For most college educated folks, the bar of expectation is considerably higher than you seem to be able to write. I believe that I could have written something on your level when I was in the fifth grade. That would be my conservative estimate.

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:58 pm

Much love, Doc. I am glad cooler heads prevailed, and I apologize if I set my soapbox on top of anyone's toes. Public education is a subject near and dear to my heart, given my background.

Have a great spring break, all.

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:11 am

tubop wrote:HAHAHA oops!

certainly english was never MY strongpoint!

Expect trouble if you plan to go on further with your education. No matter what you study at a university, once you get past the bachelor's level, you will be graded on mostly how well you write and do research!

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:18 pm

Drbuzzz wrote:According to the last line of the "Low Brass Credo":

"because...you can _______ read!"

At the ASO's last concert, Andy was jamming with his electric guitar...at home.

We missed him.

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Why do brass players read magazines in rehearsal?

Huh?

now off the topic by some distance

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