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I have never liked the idea of memorzing fingerings with notes on the page. I think it is much better to learn the names of the notes. That way when you see a C, it doesn't matter which key tuba you have, you play a C.

The problem with Bb treble clef music is that when you see a C, you play a Bb. So, I don't know.
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I would suggest maybe having them ready some easy trumpet etude books that work around the easier keys (C,G,F,Bb). Or even the Arban's since it starts out fairly nice and easy.

When I was playing in brass bands in the UK, I had to remember my old trumpet fingerings on the fly--the third time I ever played with a brass band was my audition for Faireys!!!! What helped me was that I had to play a lot of trumpet etude books in my tuba lessons, so I was reading treble clef A LOT between daily practice and 3X/week with the band.

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Go here: http://musictheory.net/trainers/html/id86_en.html

and work on your trumpet fingerings.
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RE: the musictheory.net trainer, I'm not sure I'd trust a site that claims the top space B is fingered 123 on a BBb tuba. Poor kid would be fracking for days trying to hit that note.
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...and it doesn't understand alternate fingerings very well. It thinks that 3 is very different from 12. Well, maybe for trumpet players...
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Work through a beginner's trumpet book.
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GC wrote:Work through a beginner's trumpet book.
ditto.....

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ken k wrote:
GC wrote:Work through a beginner's trumpet book.
ditto.....

ken k

Yep! Don't try to learn tricks, cheats, gimmicks. Just learn treble clef!




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Don't expect it to be easy, and don't be frustrated if it takes quite a while. I recommend the Bordogni etudes- Encore Music has a trumpet/cornet version in treble clef. These are melodius (but only if you play the right notes, which is why they're good for this) and cycle through many key signatures.

If you can work it in with the rest of your life, try to put bass clef aside and concentrate on treble only for a few weeks until you have it mastered. Then try going back and forth between the two, but avoid this until you're comfortable in treble.

On the plus side, when you're comfortable in treble clef, you'll be able to handle E flat bass clef concert pitch without much trouble.

Good luck-
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If you've got the fingerings "sorta" down okay, don't restrict yourself to trumpet books. There's a ton of horn literature out there that's very usable as TC study material.
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