Music that's a "rare find"

[Tubaguyry]

These might (or might not) be well known OUTSIDE our little tuba circle, but I'm not sure if a lot of us low-blowers have heard of them:

Concertino in Eb - Sachse

Suite for Flute & Jazz Piano Trio - Bolling

[Steve Marcus]

Edward Elgar's Severn Suite. Virtually unknown outside the brass band world.

[Wyvern]

The Original (1874) version of Bruckner's 4th Symphony.

http://www.amazon.com/Anton-Bruckner-Sy ... 593&sr=1-1

Personally, I prefer his revised version - partly because it includes a tuba and the original does not.

However a couple of symphonies where i do think the original is better is:

Tchaikovsky Symphony No.2
http://www.chandos.net/details06.asp?CN ... AN%2010041

and

Vaughan Williams London Symphony
http://www.chandos.net/details06.asp?CN ... HSA%205001

Both include good music, omitted from the final version.

[ZNC Dandy]

Shostakovich: The Execution of Stepan Razin, awesome piece, loaded with low brass power, and one of the most fiendish clarinet licks ever conceived.

Albinoni: Oboe Concerto in D Minor, which has since become my favorite solo piece to play.

Buxtedhude: Anything.

Vaughan-Williams: Henry V Overture for Brass Band, especially the last 2 minutes or so.

Dukas Symphony in C: Heard it for the first time in 1998 performed by the New York Philharmonic, incidentally on the same program as the Overture to Die Meistersinger. This was on a High School band trip my senior year, talk about phenomenal.

Tchaikovsky: Dance of the Jesters, I just love the way it sounds, and its fun as hell to play.

theres alot more....

[Mitch]

Carlos Chavez - Horsepower Suite

Chavez was a contemporary of Revueltas (born in the same year, actually)and one of the better composers to fall in the category of "Why isn't that played more?" He met Paul Dukas while in Paris, spent a couple formative years in NYC, but otherwise lived most of his life in Mexico. You can easily hear influences of the 20th c. French school in his orchestrations, Stravinsky and Copland in his technique, all still with Mexican influences in the driver's seat. Awesome stuff.

I've never seen/heard Horsepower Suite performed; I came across Chavez and his music while doing a paper on 20th c. Latin American composers while in grad school.

It's worth a listen-to.

[Tim Olt]

Greetings all,

I'll add a few to the list....

Bliss - Colour Symphony
Torke - Color Music (sorry, just popped into mind)
Prokofiev - Ivan the Terrible
Gliere - Symphony No. 3
Harty - Irish Symphony
Stanford - any symphonies/rhapsody
Hovhaness - Mountains and Rivers Without Emd
Barber - Symphony No. 1
Beach - Symphony in E Minor (Gaelic)
Bax - Tintagel
Maxwell Davies - Orkney Wedding
Chadwick - Symphony No. 2/Symphonic Sketches
Stenhammer - Symphony No. 2/Excelsior Overture
Rouse - Symphony No. 2
Massenet - Orchestral Suites

I'll add more later.....

TO

[Chuck(G)]

There's so much really undiscovered music from around the turn of the 20th century that I'm surprised when a group will program nothing but "warhorses".

Last night, I was listening to Converse's "Endymion's Narrative". A remarkable piece of music. Given my age and the decline of classical music performance, I don't expect to hear it performed live in my lifetime.

[OldsRecording]

Rott Symphony in E major (which sounds like Mahler, although it predates him!)"

I've actually heard that Mahler studied Rott's score before he wrote his first symphony, and the Symphony in E is just about the only work of Rott's that survived, because he burned all of his other stuff. Does anybody know of any other Rott works that are extant?

[OldsRecording]

Me again.........

Get Pictures at an Exhibition - Mussorgsky

arranged Stokowski

with Oliver Knussen and The Cleveland Orchestra

on Deutsche Gramm 457 646-2

Yes, I do like the Ravel orchestration of Pictures, but there is no substitute for Mussorgsky's origional piano version.

[windshieldbug]

Pictures of an Exhibitionist by Immodest Mussorgsky...

[Jonathan Fowler]

Most of Rott's surviving music is for small, chamber groups. There is not much of it.

Mahler did indeed study Rott and was quoted to say that his Symphony in E had reinvented the genre (paraphrasing). Rott was also a star pupil of Bruckner's.

If you know the Mahler symphonies pretty well (esp 1-4) you can pick up some very blatant ripoffs from the Rott, including but not limited to, the opening of the Scherzo.

This is a great piece, and should be played more often.

As my submission for said topic I would have to say:

Zemlinsky-Psalm 23
Bruckner-Symphonic Prelude
Prokofiev 7

[finnbogi]

One can think of a myriad of great pieces from the last fifty years of so, most of which aren't often heard. A few examples are:

James MacMillan: Veni, veni, Emmanuel, A child's prayer.
Arvo Pärt: De profundis, Pro et contra, Lamentate.
Henryk Górecki: Totus tuus, Lerchenmusik.
Jón Nordal: Óttusöngvar á vori, Haustvísa.
Sofia Gubaidulina: Offertorium, Lamento (for tuba and piano).
Einojuhani Rautavaara: Sotilasmessu.
Vagn Holmboe: Sange mod vårdybet.
Bengt Johansson: The Tomb at Akr Caar.
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[Wyvern]

Does anybody know of any other Rott works that are extant?

There is quite a good website on Rott at http://www.hans-rott.de/indexe.htm

His Prelude to "Julius Caesar" and the Pastorales Vorspiel actually includes tuba, unlike the symphony.

PS I like the mis-translation of "counter-bass tuba"!

[DonShirer]

A fellow band member last week gave me a tattered piano copy of "Battleship Connecticut" march by Fulton. While it is not in the same class as some of the gems mentioned above, 2/3 of the tunes are fairly nice, and it might make a nostalgic tidbit for our (nutmeg state) band.

Doing a little research, I found an mp3 copy of a 1908 acoustic recording by the Arthur Pryor band on the web, and discovered that a copy of the piano music recently sold on eBay for $38.50. Not only that but the band leader of the Battleship Connecticut later became the director of what eventually became the U.S. Navy band. Amazing what you can find with a few keyclicks.

[Doug@GT]

Holsinger: Scootin' on Hardrock

[Alex F]

[quote="Chuck Jackson"]

Shostakovich- The Death of Stepan Rezan

Yes! I did this with the Grant Park Symphony Orchestra (chorus member) under Slatkin in 1979. The title I remember is "The execution of Stepan Razin".

After the concert, my sister and her boyfriend announced their engagement. (I think he proposed right at the point where Razin yells "DAVAI TOPOR!!!" (Give me the axe)).

Fun piece.

[Chuck(G)]

"Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks" by some guy named Strauss. Sounds just like he ripped it off from Henry Hadley's "The Culprit Fay".

[Wyvern]

"Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks" by some guy named Strauss. Sounds just like he ripped it off from Henry Hadley's "The Culprit Fay".

I think the other way round - the Strauss came first

Now is it something by Chadwick which sounds like it is an extract from Dvorak New World Symphony, but it is in fact written before it?

[Chuck(G)]

Now is it something by Chadwick which sounds like it is an extract from Dvorak New World Symphony, but it is in fact written before it?

A lot of Chadwick sounds like a lot of Dvorak and vice-versa. What comes to mind immediately is Dvorak's "Carnival Overture" and Chadwick's "Jubilee" from his Symphonic Sketches.

I guess that shouldn't surprise anyone. Chadwick and Dvorak knew each other quite well.