Devilish subject matter.

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:53 pm

I'm a firm believer of music being able to express all kinds of emotions, whether it be love, anger, or plain silliness. But my question is if anyone on this board would know of any pieces of music that deal with a somewhat more "devilish" topic. By that I mean any music that is meant to convey a sense of evil, or perhaps anything having to do with the Devil, Satan, or wahtever else you may call him[it]. Now, before you start thinking of me as a devil-worshipping hate-mongerer, just know that I'm interested in this only as a matter of curiosity. One of the few pieces I can think of off-hand is perhaps Symphonie Fantastique. There are some other pieces by John Zorn, but that's all I can think of. Any help would be appreciated.
Aaron Hynds

circusboy · Post by **circusboy** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:59 pm

Night on Bald Mountain
Sympathy for the Devil
Teddy Bear's Picnic
most metal music
most Kenny G. (or is that just irritating?)
probably a fair amount more in newer classical

Sean Greene · Post by **Sean Greene** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:02 pm

Beelzebub

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:14 pm

Bach was a devoutly religious man who wrote much of his music for the church. He signed manuscripts "Soli Deo Gloria" - to God alone the glory.
However, there are a number of Satanic sects that use Bach's music in their rituals.

Several decades ago, there were some ultra conservatives that said any music with the emphasis on beats 2 and 4 instead of beats 1 and 3 was of the devil! Now, virtually every church has at least one "contemporary" service that is drums & guitar driven with a pop/rock style beat for much of the music.

I can build a house with a hammer or kill a person with a hammer...It isn't what the music is, it is what the music is used for.

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:19 pm

St. Michael the Archangel from Church Windows is about a battle between Michael and Lucifer. It's sweet.

TomMxEdit · Post by **TomMxEdit** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:43 pm

All the music having to do with Faust or Mephistopheles. (Mephisto Waltz, Berlioz Faust)

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:45 pm

Greg wrote:
tubafatness wrote:I'm a firm believer of music being able to express all kinds of emotions, whether it be love, anger, or plain silliness. But my question is if anyone on this board would know of any pieces of music that deal with a somewhat more "devilish" topic. By that I mean any music that is meant to convey a sense of evil, or perhaps anything having to do with the Devil, Satan, or wahtever else you may call him[it]. Now, before you start thinking of me as a devil-worshipping hate-mongerer, just know that I'm interested in this only as a matter of curiosity. One of the few pieces I can think of off-hand is perhaps Symphonie Fantastique. There are some other pieces by John Zorn, but that's all I can think of. Any help would be appreciated.
Aaron Hynds
How about "Black Angels" by George Crumb? Or the solo Tuba piece "Triumph of the Demon Gods" by John Stevens.

It's funny that you mention that, as I'm a big fan of the Kronos Quartet, (the only group I've seen that recorded the Crumb piece,) and I've performed the Stevens piece before. Guess those just slipped my mind.

Chriss2760 · Post by **Chriss2760** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:10 pm

Orpheus In der Undervelt (or Orpheus in the Underworld) by Jacques Offenbach.

Here's a link to info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orpheus_in_the_Underworld

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:51 pm

Coder wrote:There's a Roger Wilson, (who I don't have any info on), piece, (which I don't have any info on), for unaccompanied tuba that certainly deals with some dark stuff. No satanic references or anything, but rather a lot of 'the problem with people' kind of things. I think the piece is simply titled Thoughts for Tuba or Suite for Tuba or something of that nature. The last couple of movements, at least, are quite dark; 'The Aggressive Impulse Thwarted' and 'Bad Conscience And The Superego'.

The piece you're referring to is Richard Wilson's "Civilization and its Discontents," which any psychology student would recognize as the title of a famous book by Sigmund Freud. Hence the references to aggressive impulses and the superego. It's a pretty cool piece, too.

Captain Sousie · Post by **Captain Sousie** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:15 pm

circusboy wrote:Teddy Bear's Picnic

Thank you. That just made my day.

On the subject, there's always "Hell's Bells"

Sou

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:35 pm

Dvorak: "Kate and the Devil", particularly the Act III "Infernal Dance"
von Suppe: "Teufelsmarsch"
Wayne Siegel: "Devil's Golf Course"
Smetana: "The Devil's Wall", particularly the Act III "Infernal Dance" (no, that's not a typo from the Dvorak!)
Gaspar Cassado: "Dance of the Green Devil"
Meyerbeer: "Robert le diable"
Stravinsky: "King Kastchei's Infernal Dance"
Villa-Lobos "Bailado infernal"
Berlin: "Get thee behind me, Satan"
Nielsen: "The Luciferan"

I think everyone else has mentioned, Boito, Berlioz, Liszt and Offenbach. Tartini's "Devil's Trill" violin sonata in G is only a devil for the violinist...

averagejoe · Post by **averagejoe** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:57 am

how about "Der Traum De Oengus" (the dream of oengus in english). A director told the tuba section I was playing in that we were to sound like satan killing little cats.

Dean E · Post by **Dean E** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:56 am

Of course, there is "The Devil Went Down to Georgia," Charlie Daniels.
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/dani ... 10926.html

Also, there are some working links at the site below. Click "Links" in the frame to the left, then scroll down to "Musicians."
http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Or go directly:
http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/Links.html

PolkaNoble · Post by **PolkaNoble** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:58 am

Has anbody mentioned the song from Guys and Dolls, "Sit Down, You're Rocking the Boat." At least, I believe that's the title. It's the most repeated line in the song.

GC · Post by GC » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:07 pm

Remember the musical "Damn Yankees". In the movie, Ray Walston played the Devil, disguise as "Mr. Applegate".

PolkaNoble · Post by **PolkaNoble** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:07 pm

Anything by Emil Waldteufel, Alsacian (French-at the time-) composer of "The Skaters" waltz and several other well known Viennese style Waltzes and polkas The name translates to forest devil in German.

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:20 pm

A lot depends on the hearer. I wrote a piece for classical guitar once, that I tried to make as ugly sounding as possible (not "evil," just ugly.)

One person, on hearing it, said it was quite beautiful.

MA

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:49 pm

Devil's Radio off of the George Harrison album Cloud 9.

Oh, yeah, Oh yeah, Oh yeah, Oh, yeah....

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:21 am

"Dream of the Witches' Sabbath" from Hector Berlioz's Symphonie fantastique

Also, although it's included in most Requiem Masses, any movement called "Dies irae" (Day of wrath) usually has a Satanic sound to it. (And there is also a movement of Symphonie fantastique called "Dies irae.")

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