A question for the Tubenet freak jury....

The Big Ben · Post by **The Big Ben** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:20 pm

Ask for yer dough back and if he jacks ya, ding him with the negative feedback.

Tubaryan12 · Post by **Tubaryan12** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:24 pm

If it now plays like a hundred dollar trumpet, keep it. You got your money's worth. Only if it doesn't play like a hundred dollar trumpet do you have anything to complain about.

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:23 pm

The one time I had to leave negative feedback I had prepared myself by paying immediately so I got the good feedback first.

oldbandnerd · Post by **oldbandnerd** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:32 pm

Screw the seller!!!! He/she/ they knew what they were doing and as far as you know they deliberatly mislead you. Leave them negative feedback and go lick your wounds .

However ................

If you choose to be more diplomatic contact the seller and voice your dissapointment in a fair, non-combative email and see where it gets you . If you can reach an amiable settlement between you two then good for you. If not ....... see the above paragraph .

Happy Bidding !

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:02 pm

bloke wrote:I've received retaliatory negative feedback from two people who have cheated me on eBay (motors).

I finally learned to give positive feedback but to offer a negative or questionable comment:

"What an unusual experience."

"It takes all kinds to make a world."

etc.

I like this approach. Very much like the (hardly)positive job reccomendation. In an age where you can be sued for NOT writing a recommendation for a former employee, use stuff like...

"You will be very lucky if you can get this person to work for you"

or

"I honestly can't think of enough nice things to say about this person"

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:04 pm

I've found that most of the sellers on Ebay don't know their butts from a hole in the ground when it comes to describing their merchandise. They seem to be mostly antique/junk dealers and e-commerce 'middle-men'. It pays to ask lots of questions to find out if the seller has a clue. Descriptions like 'the thingies go up and down', 'the gizmos go in and out', and 'the horn appears to be in good shape' are usually clues that the seller has no knowledge of what they are selling. I tend to bid no more than junk prices unless I've actually called the seller and talked to them personally. If you've not taken this important step in the buying process, then I would say that you got what you bargained for.... a so-so deal.
BTW... that leadpipe is probably full of rot. A replacement shouldn't be very expensive.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:16 pm

schlepporello wrote:his horn was marked as an 03 therefore that's exactly what it was. Yes, he was an antique dealer.

... and MADE in '03... 1603!

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:22 pm

schlepporello wrote:So very true. I had contacted a seller who was selling a Yamaha YBB-103. He had listed it as a Yamaha YBB-03, it seems that someone had scratched the "1" off. I told him that he did in fact have a 103 and that someone had scratched out the "1" as was obvious from the photo he'd posted. I then gave him my background as to how I would know this and that I also had a 103. The idiot e-mailed me back to say that I was clearly mistaken, his horn was marked as an 03 therefore that's exactly what it was. Yes, he was an antique dealer.

I've been told more than once that I must be mistaken--the bell engraving clearly says "I. M. Dork".

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:57 am

And you got a nice paperweight out of the deal.

Neat!

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:41 pm

iiipopes wrote:The one time I had to leave negative feedback I had prepared myself by paying immediately so I got the good feedback first.

The number of sellers who will leave you positive feedback for quick payment before they see what you are going to write has dwindled to about zero. That's what they should do, but not what they actually do, at least not very often.

I usually wait for the product to arrive, and if I'm happy with the deal, I post positive feedback. If I'm not happy with the deal, I seek to resolve it. But I assume nothing. I recently bought an HF transceiver for amateur radio use from an ebay seller. He described it as fully tested, so that's what I expected. I didn't see any veiled references in the text, etc.

When it arrived, it worked perfectly. But I saw that he had removed the optional filters to sell separately. No foul: He never claimed the optional filters were installed. Had they been there, I'd have been pleasantly surprised. I apply a two-thirds factor to everything I read, and determine what price I will pay accordingly.

I don't expect full disclosure, especially for faults the typical seller is unqualified to notice. If I want something that's tested, I look for the seller who claims to have tested it. If it doesn't work, they are caught in a lie and even ebay will acknowledge that, so they tend not to claim it unless it's true.

Rick "seldom disappointed" Denney

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:45 pm

Indeed. Managing expectations and lowering your personal bid ceiling accordingly definitely helps in avoiding disappointments.

Todd S. Malicoate · Post by **Todd S. Malicoate** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:05 pm

Rick Denney wrote:The number of sellers who will leave you positive feedback for quick payment before they see what you are going to write has dwindled to about zero. That's what they should do, but not what they actually do, at least not very often.

I have noticed this trend as well, even though I am careful to always leave feedback immediately after receiving payment. I always wonder what the seller is waiting for, but I agree with Rick that it is probably the fear of negative feedback causing the problem.

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:32 pm

My new (to me) Fender bass guitar is supposed to arrive tomorrow when U.P.S. runs. I am waiting to write his feedback until I see that the guitar is in almost mint condition as advertised. The seller was prompt shipping it and gave me good feedback for paying quickly. I have good vibes about this transaction.