tubashaman wrote:the 24AW was probably a back 24AW, a popular student mouthpiece, however some professionals use it
I assume you mean the Bach 24AW?
(your spelling above may prove confusing to some ... unless you meant something completely different, in which case ** I ** am the one who is confused!)
Cheers,
Steve Inman
Yamaha YEB-381 Eb
Conn 56J CC
Willson-Marzan CC Solo Model
Kokomo Chamber Brass
I have played on a B&S 24AW which felt and played the same as a Bach 24AW. Just the shank was a bit larger to fit the B&S receiver.
However, a past teacher had a Yamaha tuba which came with a 24AW like yours, but as he demonstrated to me it would not produce the sound of an original Bach 24AW as he liked. Why, I don't know!
Incidentally, in the UK the Bach 24AW is used extensively by professionals. It seems a good match for Besson Eb's.
Jonathan "who used a 24AW for 15 years, before he got into mp experimenting"
Greg wrote:I think bloke sums it up very well. You pay for the attention given to the product you are buying. In my experience, I have had students buy trumpet, trombone, horn, euphonium, and tuba mouthpieces and have noticed that something you are paying for is consistancy. In other-words, the $150 mouthpiece is most likely going to be to the specifications that you are wanting. A $25 mouthpiece company will make as many mouthpieces as possible on the same equipment before changing bits. I could be wrong but I believe that a mouthpiece is essentially dirlled out with a bit using a mandrel. From what I have seen it seems as if more affordable mouthpiece companies will use the same bit until it is worn out and the end result is less accurate dimensions to the interior of the mouthpiece.
I have a Perantucci PT48 that has a slightly smaller throat than the standard PT48. When I called Custom, this was basically the explaination that I was given.
I could be wrong with all of the above. Hwever, when I have students buying mouthpieces on any instrument, I generally recommend avoiding the very lowest priced product due to having seen them arrive with irregular dimensions.
bloke wrote:You know the answer to that:
Which one costs more/resells for more: a Geo Prizm or a Toyota Corolla?
Further, hours were dedicated to the making of some mouthpieces whereas minutes were dedicated to the making of others. Some of my favorites are some of those that required minutes. I also like some that required hours.
Did all 3000 sq. ft. houses cost the same to build?
Hmmm.... Maybe I'm all wet here, but I think you may have missed one of Bloke's points.... A Geo Prism and a Toyota Corolla come off the same production line and are very close to being the very same thing.
Bottom line... there are some very good cheap mouthpieces and some very mediocre very expensive mouthpieces.
My personal opinion??? it's really more a matter of what your chops get used to.
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker" http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
On the other hand, if we're talking about "Mt. Vernon Bach" mouthpieces--you know, the ones that trumpet players will pay obscene sums for--they were all over the place as far as tolerances go.