Well, then what does that euphonum do... play YOU!?Brassdad wrote:I don't play...my son does.
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Well, to be honest personal and professional requirements have put me off learning for a few months.windshieldbug wrote:Well, then what does that euphonum do... play YOU!?Brassdad wrote:I don't play...my son does.![]()
By Sept I plan on working on it again.
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My parents gave my sister, my brother, and me names beginning with B and middle names beginning with J. I have the same first name as my dad and our middle names were different, even though they also began with J. Some government agencies refuse to write out middle names. When I registered to vote, living with my parents, it caused all kinds of problems. My dad always voted absentee and I voted at the polls. I would sometimes arrive at the polling place and, more than once, I was accused of voting twice. I wrote to the San Bernardino County Registrar of Voters and they were dumbfounded. They told me the only way we could be differentiated would be for me to have either Jr. or II (the second) tacked at the end of my name. I told them, "No, I am not a Junior or a 'number two;' I have a different name than my father and it's up to you to fix this!" It took about six months but they relented.
My preference now is not to try to be cute with names like that. Actually, I hated it when I was growing up, too.
My preference now is not to try to be cute with names like that. Actually, I hated it when I was growing up, too.
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Probably more than a few. Although I find blues to be limited and derivative in the wrong hands (think your local white boy cover band), the masters and innovators of the form (Howlin' Wolf and John Lee Hooker are my faves) are just fantastic to listen to when you're in the right frame of mind (buzzed and feeling a little sorry for yourself).Mojo workin' wrote:I'm guessing that I'm one of the few tubenetters that is a big a fan of the blues.
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I always wondered why that's all you see doing blues these days. Mostly middle aged white guys who just learned to play their respective instruments in the last five years when they bought their top-of-the-line instruments and rigs on a raise.WakinAZ wrote:(think your local white boy cover band)
What always gets me is that these guys are what you commonly find in what is supposed to be JAZZ clubs. It's a major pet peeve of mine, especially when I go to a jazz club hoping to find some good bop, or at least something in the jazz idiom.
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True, but at least if it's labeled a "tuba" or "euphonium," one would hope they labeled the horns correctly (well, there's the whole age-old ignorance on euph vs. baritone and tuba vs. sousaphone). What bugs me is they will put blues in a jazz club and think nothing of it. Takes away gigs for the jazzers. Then again, it may have never been a good gig to start with.bloke wrote: It isn't easy to find "great" stuff, period. If you are an out-of-towner somewhere and drive past a bar in a strip mall that has "jazz", the likelihood that the musicians are exceptionally fine is about the same likelihood of finding an exceptionally fine TUBA or EUPHONIUM for sale in a strip mall music (combo) store.
Of course. But, for instance, when I was in Savannah once on a date, she took me to a place called "The Jazz Corner" or something like that. Savannah has a great deal of fine jazz, we tend to drive from Jax on a regular basis to go hear great musicians or gig, which led me to believe this may be a good place to hear live jazz. This particular "jazz club" was very upscale, and you had to pay a good deal to get a beer or martini. The band playing was a bunch of middle aged guys in a blues band who were playing wrong notes left and right.bloke wrote:Most cities have some good jazz musicians around...You just have to ask questions...and hearing them play just might notbe associated with buying a drink in a dive.
I don't mind going out to hear a good blues band. Emphasis on GOOD. However, they should be playing in a blues club. Not jazz. Just as I wouldn't go to Hard Rock Cafe to hear some new hip-hop artist, I don't think there should be blues in a jazz club. If you know me, you would know I have nothing against ANY genre of music. God knows, I've been playing in a country band lately to pay the bills. But I wouldn't call up Simon's jazz club (here in Jax) and try to get this band a gig there.bloke wrote:Around here, there are a LOT more "blues" bands than "jazz" bands, and jazz musicians (sometimes - particularly some who have migrated here from New Orleans) actually take offense at being referred to as "blues" musicians.
Of course they don't. My list of favorite jazz musicians is absolutely loaded with white people. If Miles and Mingus, who are well known for their dislike of white people in general, hired whites on a normal basis because of their playing and not their color, why should I be prejudice about that, either? I'm just noting the irony in the blues genre in that it was started and popularized with black people, and I just find it interesting most of what you see playing nowadays are white guys. Most of them have just recently learned their instruments, which they bought with the money they have laying around from their good jobs.bloke wrote:"and great jazz musicians don't necessarily have to be members of the Negro race, either"
Nick
PS: Sorry to take yet another thread off subject.
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I really get a kick out of this kind of jive. Now, I do enjoy hearing Aretha, but, as you said, it's not jazz.Scooby Tuba wrote:I once played a job at a "Jazz Festival" (non-white promoters who mostly confused "adult contemporary" with "jazz"---Aretha Franklin ain't a "jazzer"...) that had a jazz "legend" as a headliner with a big band backing him up (I played bass trombone...). This "legend" called a tune, got lost in his own changes (he wrote the tune with some "flighty" alto player in the 50's...), and then tried to blame the white college professor bass player for screwing up (which he did not...). The band was 50/50 (as requested), but everyone knew the "legend" was pulling a CYA and ranting about white guys and jazz... I found it amusing. The bass player did not.
The bass player held his ground and the "legend" begrudgingly relented after some real ugliness.
Ignorance knows no bounds nor colors... Jazz knows no colors either.
I seem to be catching a little bit for my statement, though. I just want to say that I don't have anything against any color in music. Jeez, I play quite a bit of jazz, funk, and salsa. It's where I see my professional chops going in the future on bass. Since I'm white, I would be condemning myself as well; that I would hit a plateau and never improve on account that I picked the wrong ancestors. There are some black jazz players around here I wouldn't consider hiring, because they consistently skate the changes and can't find the pocket. But there are some guys, who happen to be black, that I really hope take the gigs I offer them in hopes I can learn from what they have to offer. This is NOT because of their color, but their playing ability. If there is a white player of equal ability, I would hope HE would accept the gig.
For what it's worth, my bass teacher is one of the best bassists I've really ever heard, and he plays both electric and upright equally well in jazz, funk, and salsa. He was Arturo Sandoval's bass player for the last ten years, and just left Arturo. He is also Jewish. Who cares? He plays better than most, anyways.
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The first email address I ever had was at work, many years ago. To make the email addresses unique, the IT manager used the first three letters of the first name, and the first three letters of the last name, so Bruce Combs = BruCom.
I've never had any trouble with the name being taken by someone else.
We had a secretary, Cathy Cummins, who didn't stay long - probably because of her email address.
Karen Donovan was KarDon - she often commented that she was lucky not to be "Harriet."
I've never had any trouble with the name being taken by someone else.
We had a secretary, Cathy Cummins, who didn't stay long - probably because of her email address.
Karen Donovan was KarDon - she often commented that she was lucky not to be "Harriet."
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