Awesome "Fafner" on German ebay.

ZNC Dandy · Post by **ZNC Dandy** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:09 pm

This thing is really sweet. It has a strange 5th valve?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Tuba-Melton-Fafner-V ... dZViewItem

Steve Inman · Post by **Steve Inman** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:42 pm

I'm trying to see if someone spliced the 5th valve into the leadpipe -- which runs right past there -- or if it's a dependent 5th valve inserted into the 4th valve tubing -- which I believe is a "standard" 5th valve approach for the MW 195 and 197 horns, so I've heard.

Can't see enough from the photo, however.

Interesting ....

cjk · Post by **cjk** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:50 pm

The fourth valve slide on that Fafner is routed the same way some of the other Meinl-Weston BBb tubas are like the 25.

Here's a link to a PDF document that shows another Fafner with the fourth valve tubing routed the same way (minus the dependent valve).
http://download.melton.de/Anzeigen-Druc ... Halwax.pdf

cjk · Post by **cjk** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:36 pm

bloke wrote:Why would someone go to so much trouble with a BBb tuba?

bloke "pulling a fire alarm and running out the nearest door"

I have no earthly idea.

Probably one of the same folks who would soup up a Honda Civic.

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:22 pm

bloke wrote:Why would someone go to so much trouble with a BBb tuba?

bloke "pulling a fire alarm and running out the nearest door"

Ha-Ha. Probably the same people who soup-up Helicons and have in their signatures "Principal Tuba of...insert your school here"

Chuck"who is running out right behind Joe with a fire extinquisher"Jackson

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:44 pm

bloke wrote:
Chuck Jackson wrote:
bloke wrote:Why would someone go to so much trouble with a BBb tuba?

bloke "pulling a fire alarm and running out the nearest door"
Ha-Ha. Probably the same people who soup-up Helicons and have in their signatures "Principal Tuba of...insert your school here"

Chuck"who is running out right behind Joe with a fire extinquisher"Jackson
Have you ever heard the John Fletcher story about his Eb tuba, someone else's F tuba, and working out arrangements for fitting everyone and their stuff into a car?

I'll put my 'chuber' in the back seat, and we'll put your bass in the boot.

No, but I think I saw the movie. Had lots of waa-waa guitar and spurious looking women.

Chuck"who views "those movies" as sociological experiments"Jackson

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:38 pm

bloke wrote:
Chuck Jackson wrote:No, but I think I saw the movie. Had lots of waa-waa guitar and spurious looking women.

Chuck"who views "those movies" as sociological experiments"Jackson
OK...

If I can converse on the internet with someone who speaks German, I can certainly converse with someone who has had three too many highballs.

Problem with your logic is this: I don't drink the hard stuff and barely drink the easy stuff.

Chuck"You converse in German, I converse in English, you say tomato, I say tomato, ah shucks, let's call the whole thing off"Jackson

djwesp · Post by **djwesp** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:21 am

Chuck Jackson wrote: Ha-Ha. Probably the same people who soup-up Helicons and have in their signatures "Principal Tuba of...insert your school here"

Oh my.

These last two days worth of Chuck's posts have been worth their weight in gold.

Wes Pendergrass
Principal Tubist of Some School In The High Plains that no one cares about

WakinAZ · Post by **WakinAZ** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:39 am

As the principal tubist at Hayseed U. (check my sig), I resemble some of the above remarks.

Eric "hoping someone will get the (admittedly lame and specifically targeted) joke someday" L.

Steve Inman · Post by **Steve Inman** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:50 pm

cjk wrote:The fourth valve slide on that Fafner is routed the same way some of the other Meinl-Weston BBb tubas are like the 25.

Here's a link to a PDF document that shows another Fafner with the fourth valve tubing routed the same way (minus the dependent valve).
http://download.melton.de/Anzeigen-Druc ... Halwax.pdf

Notice how Paul is carefully holding onto the bell .....

Also -- this IS the present configuration of the Fafner -- I just played a new one yesterday at Tuba Dome. BUT ... at the Meinl Weston website, the picture does NOT show the top-side 4th valve slide (which IS as shown in the above pdf). Rather, the M-W site shows a Fafner and a 197 with the same valve slide configuration. I wonder if they started with the layout shown on their web page and then changed ...

Cheers,

Steve Inman · Post by **Steve Inman** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:53 pm

the elephant wrote:I blew the photo up quite a bit.

[snip]
Again, it is hard to tell.

Now that we know the 4th valve tuning slide is right next to the 1st (just like the 25) then this becomes easy -- it's a dependent 5th valve, linked into the top of the 4th valve slide.

(That's my vote ....)

Cheers,