Which fifth valve do you prefer?

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:21 pm

On bass tubas, I think the quint valve makes a lot of sense, particularly if it is a larger bore than the other four or five valves.

Stefan Kac · Post by **Stefan Kac** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:34 pm

I happen to play one horn with a flat whole step, and one with the major third. I'd say they work equally well with the exception of the 5234 combo on the former, which is as close as you can get to a low G on my F, but is still quite sharp and doesn't involve the slide that I'd have my hand on anyway (1st). Very inconvenient.y

CJ Krause · Post by **CJ Krause** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:28 pm

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:11 am

I'd vote if you listed a near-minor third.

I have mine pulled out enough to play low Eb (on a BBb) 4-5, and it works really nicely for a low E (or lowish B) (2-3-5) and an honest-to-goodness valved low B. Other pitches benefit, too, but those are the notable ones.

Mark E. Chachich · Post by **Mark E. Chachich** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:15 pm

I like the flat whole step fifth valve. However, the only reason that I like the flat whole step is that my MW 32 was equipped with it and now I am used to it.

Mark

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:15 pm

bbtubaman wrote:... right about the 6 valve but hard to find on anything other than F tubas.

The designs have been out there (from my gallery index):

B&S rotary tubas. 4 pages from a 1985 catalogue.(2608KB)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YorkMaste ... -tubas.pdf

Thumbnails:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yo ... +catalogue

The last link even will lead you to a photo of the valve section of a 4+2RV BBb tuba.

The galleries are stored within the Yahoo group system. Membership required, but then it is open for all.

If you experience problems right after having joined, please go back to the original link.

Klaus

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:26 pm

There's always the old French tuba system.

5 valve: 2, 1, 4, 5, 7 semitones
6 valve: 2, 1, 4, 5, 1, 7 semitones

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:28 pm

PhilW. wrote:
Leland wrote:I'd vote if you listed a near-minor third.
Actually, if I am not mistaken, two flat whole steps is a minor third.

Oh duh...

Well, wait -- the 2-3 valve combination is a major third, but I'm looking for the equivalent of 1-2, or 1-1/2 steps, which would be the minor third. People might try to call it a flat whole step, but I think that it's way too flat to even consider the label "whole step".

My 5th is just a bit sharper than 1-2. That's how it tunes best if I play low Eb as 4-5.

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Which fifth valve do you prefer?

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