Finale 2008 Users, Help!

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:47 am

EDIT: Got it, thanks!

I was using a demo version of finale to make a piece that I was going to play in church tomorrow. Today that demo ran out, and I can't extract the solo out of it! Could someone please do it for me? It would be a great help.

The file is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cqe13t3y1bz

It's a Finale 2008 File.

Happy Holidays!

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:01 am

It's a Finale 2008 file.

Thanks for trying!

The Jackson · Post by **The Jackson** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:12 am

Ahhh, I can't open it in my Sibelius 4. Sorry

sffz · Post by **sffz** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:29 am

Done! How can I get it to you? I don't know how to send an attachment via tubenet email.

Randy

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:52 am

You can send it to my email address.

jbaylies
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Let's see if them spambots can get at me now!

Thanks so much!

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:56 pm

I have the file! Thanks everyone, for all of your help!

Carroll · Post by **Carroll** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:01 pm

Next time... download Finale Notepad. It can open, edit, and print files created in Finale 2008.

Merry Christmas.

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:07 pm

Carroll wrote:Next time... download Finale Notepad. It can open, edit, and print files created in Finale 2008.

Yes, but it can't extract parts!

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:25 pm

the elephant wrote:Could you have re-saved it with a different file name and then deleted the piano staves? I do not know the limitations of NotePad.

Nope, you can't delete staves, I couldn't have copied the tuba part and pasted it into a new file either, because notepad does not copy key changes.

Carroll · Post by **Carroll** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:01 pm

jbaylies wrote:
Carroll wrote:Next time... download Finale Notepad. It can open, edit, and print files created in Finale 2008.
Yes, but it can't extract parts!

You could copy the solo part to a new file and print.

Iit IS free, legal, and you were in a bind.

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:03 pm

Carroll wrote:
jbaylies wrote:
Carroll wrote:Next time... download Finale Notepad. It can open, edit, and print files created in Finale 2008.
Yes, but it can't extract parts!
You could copy the solo part to a new file and print.

I couldn't have copied the tuba part and pasted it into a new file either, because notepad does not copy key changes.

Also, I played the piece 30 minutes ago, it went great! A video of it will be up in a day or two.

BopEuph · Post by **BopEuph** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:20 am

MakeMusic never counted on people doing that much copying and pasting into new files. You would have to prep key and time signature changes first before bringing the file in (though I don't know if that would work). I rarely do stuff like that, and I use Finale on a very regular basis. Copying and pasting in key changes are something we've been trying to get MM to do for a while. But at least that's not as difficult as a time signature change. But not many run into that.

Notepad was never designed for ANY kind of engraving. It was mostly designed so someone who didn't have Finale on their computer will be able to print up .mus files. It's not even complete enough to make changes to an already engraved score. If you like Finale, either get the full version, or try Allegro. It's a watered-down version, but it has MUCH more stuff than Notepad.

Any questions about Finale would best be answered at the MakeMusic forum. Check it out:

http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?c=1

There you will find some real gurus that know every trick. You may see me and one or two other TubeNetters in that forum too.

Nick

BopEuph · Post by **BopEuph** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:26 am

the elephant wrote:Those nefarious spambots troll this board and you will start to gets lots of fresh, tasty SPAM addressed to your gmail account. If I ever forget and post my address publicly my spam influx triples very quickly. Lots make it through my filters. So you might want to alter your address so that it is recognizable to a human and not to a computer.

You know, I have been getting about 5-10 spam mails to my account per day, and I ran a search for my email address in Google. There it was, in the Finale forum. I deleted the post, since it was made about two to three years ago, and I almost immediately stopped getting spam. Though, I also blocked the spam addresses rather than just reporting them to Hotmail as well. That might have helped, too, since the report was probably never being used to go after spammers.

Nick

BVD Press · Post by **BVD Press** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:25 am

BopEuph wrote:MakeMusic never counted on people doing that much copying and pasting into new files. You would have to prep key and time signature changes first before bringing the file in (though I don't know if that would work). I rarely do stuff like that, and I use Finale on a very regular basis. Copying and pasting in key changes are something we've been trying to get MM to do for a while. But at least that's not as difficult as a time signature change. But not many run into that.

Finale 2008 has made major advancements in this area. 99% of the time Time Signatures, Key Changes, repeats, etc. are copied between files. I have copied and pasted between well over 300 files since this version was released and only recall 2 files that did not copy the elements mentioned above.

For me, this feature has saved countless hours of time.

Wishing all well,

BopEuph · Post by **BopEuph** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:29 am

BVD Press wrote:
Finale 2008 has made major advancements in this area. 99% of the time Time Signatures, Key Changes, repeats, etc. are copied between files. I have copied and pasted between well over 300 files since this version was released and only recall 2 files that did not copy the elements mentioned above.

For me, this feature has saved countless hours of time.

Well then, I guess there WAS some good in the new versions. I'm just afraid to move from '05. I guess I'm like Zuill in that matter. But I've been thinking about getting it to experiment.

Nick

BVD Press · Post by **BVD Press** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:53 am

BopEuph wrote:
BVD Press wrote:
Finale 2008 has made major advancements in this area. 99% of the time Time Signatures, Key Changes, repeats, etc. are copied between files. I have copied and pasted between well over 300 files since this version was released and only recall 2 files that did not copy the elements mentioned above.

For me, this feature has saved countless hours of time.
Well then, I guess there WAS some good in the new versions. I'm just afraid to move from '05. I guess I'm like Zuill in that matter. But I've been thinking about getting it to experiment.

Nick

Are you on a MAC or a PC? If MAC, do yourself a huge favor and upgrade. I am not sure on the PC side.

There are still bugs in 2008, but I use it 8-12 hours a day (sometimes more) and do not find too many issues that actually change work flow. There are a few, but one can easily work around them.

jbaylies · Post by **jbaylies** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:41 pm

Here is the vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaTcufork5s

And now for...
*cue timpani*
DUM dum DUM dum DUM dum DUMMMM!
EXCUSES!

"I just got the tuba a month ago, I wasn't used to it yet, I swear! And, and I also had chapped lips the week before so I couldn't play! No, wait! NO!"
*BANG BANG*
"GAHHH!"

Todd S. Malicoate · Post by **Todd S. Malicoate** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:05 pm

Nice playing, sir...and a good experience for you as well!

Now some free advice unrelated to your tuba playing:

Never, never, NEVER tell your audience why you are going to fail before they hear you play. Reading "excuses" about your new horn and chapped lips changed the way I listened to and evaluated your performance.

The Boy Scouts have it figured out..."Do Your Best."

And a wise man once said, "no matter what is wrong with you, your horn, the hall, or anything else...you can't hang a sign."

BopEuph · Post by **BopEuph** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:44 am

BVD Press wrote: Are you on a MAC or a PC? If MAC, do yourself a huge favor and upgrade. I am not sure on the PC side.

There are still bugs in 2008, but I use it 8-12 hours a day (sometimes more) and do not find too many issues that actually change work flow. There are a few, but one can easily work around them.

I'm on PC. I might get a new version one of these days. But I really haven't had any problems with 2005. Then again, it would give me an excuse to have the Garritan Personal Orchestra.

Nick

BopEuph · Post by **BopEuph** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:10 pm

EuphoniumPlayer87 wrote:Two of the best features with the new Finale is (1) the ability to sync your composition with video and (2) adding in an audio track (mp3 or otherwise) and composing a background to it. Very cool. I still have problems with copying and pasting into new files, but I can usually find a way around those problems.

For me, as a general music copyist and transcribist, stuff like that is unneeded. I haven't done anything like that, but I do have Sonar, and can save Finale files as MIDI files, then drag them into Sonar. It was designed for that kind of stuff anyway.

With the lack of bug fixes and the plethora of "new features," plus the fact that they want these new versions out every year rather than perfecting each version and having a very good product every few years, it just makes me want to stay with what I have. I've heard about bug reports that got transferred to the "feature request" department, because they don't want to acknowledge some of the bugs. I've had '05 for a few years now, use it probably 20+ hours a week, and I'm still finding new bugs. I just found one two days ago. Other bugs are still in every day use, though I now know the workarounds. I had to deal with two such bugs today.

Nick