As you can see, I have both. I have played excellent examples of both. I have also played dogs of both kinds that should be scrapped.
The receiver and leadpipe diameter and geometry have a lot more to do with whether you feel like you're "filling up" the horn or if it is "sucking your air dry," more than the bore diameter, usually measured as the inside diameter of the second valve side, which is far removed from the receiver and leadpipe. It's also one of the main discussion items for a Miraphone 1291 vs a 1292. But I do agree I have to use a mouthpiece with a smaller throat on my 186 -- Curry 128D with a .325 throat and slightly rounded at the bottom cup to give a little more resistance and feedback, than I do with the Besson and its Wick 1, .332 throat and one of the deepest true funnels there is, since the Besson comp valveblock provides the resistance and feedback I need to help control my airflow.
Instead of using acronyms or 'kiddie slang' why don't you guys just go ahead and say it! It means the same thing.
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker" http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
There are actually some who will argue that "newb" and "n00b" are two completely different terms. A newb is simply someone new to something while a n00b is someone who is new but is also acting like they are not.
That's what skateboarding and games have taught me
Back on track (sort of): I tooted on an old, used YBB-641 today, and didn't think it was all that bad. I could get used to it. The local music store wanted waaay too much for it, so that was that.
I have the distinct pleasure of using my school's 641 at home for practice.
To be honest, I'd rather go back to my middle school and borrow one of their YBB-201's. It's such a doo-doo horn. To (maybe) give it credit, it (like many of its kin at my school) are pretty beat up. I'd bet that this was a decent horn 10 years ago when it was brand new.
