NFL Playoffs

TMurphy · Post by **TMurphy** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:55 pm

TubaRay wrote:
TMurphy wrote: I won't argue that the Pats are a dynasty, I'd just like to point out that--as a Jets fan--I've always hated the Patriots.
Not that I particularly care about the Pats, but I'd just like to point out that most of the country didn't even know that there were Jets fans.

Nor do most Jets fans. It's kind of a shock when you meet another...not too dissimilar to meeting another tuba player....

RyanSchultz · Post by **RyanSchultz** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:05 pm

OK, for the record: New England over San Diego. It'll be a good game at first and eventually a NE route.

Green Bay over NY.

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:48 pm

All I know is, I want the Packers to win it all. That'd be great for Favre, who's been having a legendary season and might not be coming back. A replay of the 1996 SB with Pats losing to the Packers would be great.

KevinMadden · Post by **KevinMadden** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:17 pm

and its NE over SD!

into the tundra for the GB/NYG game

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:01 pm

Principle Tuba, Houston Civic Symphony

A tuba player with principles, who knew?

Chuck

bearphonium · Post by **bearphonium** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:32 pm

Dang. I was hoping for Favre and the Packers to face NE. Now I gotta root for Eli Manning?

John Caves · Post by **John Caves** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:47 pm

Dang it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pulseczar · Post by **pulseczar** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:32 am

Yeah it's probably gonna be a snoozerball because it's gonna be a rematch, but I'm interested in the first quarter. How will Belechik respond to the Dline? How's Tom Coughlin's going to prepare his team?

The Giants secondary isn't the strongest so Brady and the receiving corps' going to destroy them unless (in my analysis) there is enough pressure from the Dline to keep the Brady from throwing the deep balls. Morency had a huge game on Saturday. Hopefully the Giants can neutralize that without resorting to their secondary.

Yes I'm part of the anti-Patriots bandwagon. I'm from the Bay Area so I was glad to see Randy Moss leave and pissed off that he's doing great in New England.

John Caves · Post by **John Caves** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:31 pm

Chuck,

Someone out must have some...

artuba · Post by **artuba** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:52 pm

Well, to be honest, I'm only half unhappy with the turnouts of the games. While I HATE the Patriots, their a good team... and I just wanted the Packers to win because, for some strange reason, I'm a Green Bay fan second only to Dallas.

Since Dallas didn't get as far as wished, I was hoping for the Giants to meet the Chargers in the Super Bowl, but then it would just be the Mediocraty Bowl.

Oh well, I guess I can just hope for decent commercials.

artuba · Post by **artuba** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:54 pm

Well, to be honest, I'm only half unhappy with the turnouts of the games. While I HATE the Patriots, their a good team... and I just wanted the Packers to win because, for some strange reason, I'm a Green Bay fan second only to Dallas.

Since Dallas didn't get as far as wished, I was hoping for the Giants to meet the Chargers in the Super Bowl, but then it would just be the Mediocraty Bowl.

Oh well, I guess I can just hope for decent commercials.

RyanSchultz · Post by **RyanSchultz** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:00 pm

Holy NY Football Giants, Batman!

This is going to be a good Superbowl!

TMurphy · Post by **TMurphy** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:28 am

the elephant wrote:
wchoc86 wrote:
the elephant wrote:Snoozerbowl!
not if the giants play like they did in week 17
I am not talking about the game. I am talking about the national interest in these two teams. Just because they are in Boston and New York (sort of) everyone up there thinks that the whole country ought to be interested. I know this. I used to live up there and attended three games of the 1986 World Series and made the trip out to California for the 1987 Superbowl.

Dallas and Green Bay have FAR larger national fan bases. The Giants are strictly local and the Pats are sort of national, but mostly in a "I hate the Patriots" way. They have not yet achieved the popularity nor the infamy of the Cowboys. (Lots of Cowboys haters out there.) You see Packers and Cowboys gear all over the country and world. You see Giants gear in New York, by and large. Get what I am saying? I am not certain that I said that very clearly. Oh well â€¦

As I said, in a national interest sort of way, this is as much a "Snoozerbowl" as would be a "Subway Series" between the Yankees and the Mets. All of NYC would be frothing at the mouth over that situation, as we all know. And as we all ALSO know, NYC is the center of all things that matter. There is that little town Called LA. New Yorkers often consider the entire US between those two towns to be a vast desert devoid of people and even of all life. (Kidding. I thought that while I lived in NYC. The locals taught me the proper way to think of America!)

Anyway, this will probably be a very decent game, despite the track record of Superbowl match-ups producing some pretty boring football. I suppose I will root for the hated NY Giants instead of the MUCH hated Patriots.

Go, Giants â€¦ I guess â€¦ ($1 to the great Red Green.)

I would agree for the most part, however, there is one thing that makes this game very intriguing nationally: the Patriots are 18-0. Everyone is going to take interest, because there is a chance at history being made. There is going to be plenty of interest for this game--more than usual, I think. But I will agree, little to none of it has anything to do with the Giants.

The reason teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Yankees, and Red Sox get such national followings is because they are "storied" teams, they've had lots of legendary players, and have won several championships. The Giants don't have that. The Patriots are building that as we speak, and will be a powerhouse, in terms of popularity and merchandise, for a while, especially if they pull this 19-0 thing off.

Davy · Post by **Davy** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:27 pm

Speaking of the Super Bowl....Anyone know who the National Anthem singer is going to be?

justinbarleben · Post by **justinbarleben** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:11 pm

Davy wrote:Speaking of the Super Bowl....Anyone know who the National Anthem singer is going to be?

Jordin Sparks, winner of American Idol Season 6.
I'm sure I will tell you this in person before you actually read it, but here it is anyway.
I will be getting chips at that point in the festivities.
Justin "James Taylor in World Series Game 2 was the only good anthem I've seen in a while" Barleben

OldsRecording · Post by **OldsRecording** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:42 pm

TMurphy wrote: The reason teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Yankees, and Red Sox get such national followings is because they are "storied" teams, they've had lots of legendary players, and have won several championships. The Giants don't have that. The Patriots are building that as we speak, and will be a powerhouse, in terms of popularity and merchandise, for a while, especially if they pull this 19-0 thing off.

I wonder, though. If it were, say, Minnesota that was currently undefeated going into the Super Bowl, and they had that little 'scandal' about taping an opponent's sideline early in the season, would they be generating nearly as much bile and rancor as the Patriots? I keep hearing this constant chorus of "I Hate the Patriots" seemingly for no other reason than fans of other teams desparate wish to be in the same position. Yes, I dislike Dallas, but that's because I'm an old Redskins fan, and if you're a 'Skins fan, hating Dallas is simply part of the equation based on years and years of mutual animosity. I can see Jets fans (or possibly Colts fans) having a dislike for NE, based on geography and history, but that's where it should, for all intents and purposes, end.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:10 pm

OldsRecording wrote:Yes, I dislike Dallas, but that's because I'm an old Redskins fan, and if you're a 'Skins fan, hating Dallas is simply part of the equation based on years and years of mutual animosity

Hey, I dislike DallasÂ³; I'm in the middle of multiple animosities (Eagles, Giants, AND Nativeamericans)!

TMurphy · Post by **TMurphy** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:36 pm

OldsRecording wrote:
TMurphy wrote: The reason teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Yankees, and Red Sox get such national followings is because they are "storied" teams, they've had lots of legendary players, and have won several championships. The Giants don't have that. The Patriots are building that as we speak, and will be a powerhouse, in terms of popularity and merchandise, for a while, especially if they pull this 19-0 thing off.
I wonder, though. If it were, say, Minnesota that was currently undefeated going into the Super Bowl, and they had that little 'scandal' about taping an opponent's sideline early in the season, would they be generating nearly as much bile and rancor as the Patriots? I keep hearing this constant chorus of "I Hate the Patriots" seemingly for no other reason than fans of other teams desparate wish to be in the same position. Yes, I dislike Dallas, but that's because I'm an old Redskins fan, and if you're a 'Skins fan, hating Dallas is simply part of the equation based on years and years of mutual animosity. I can see Jets fans (or possibly Colts fans) having a dislike for NE, based on geography and history, but that's where it should, for all intents and purposes, end.

Interesting point. Part of the utter dislike of the Patriots I think also stems from the fact that the mastermind behind all of the success is Bill Belichek, who comes across as a cold and largely unlikable man. (I can't stand him, but that's because he resigned as head coach of my team after 1 day). I think he turns a lot of people off, and gets them rooting against the Patriots...the videotaping thing made it even worse.

OldsRecording · Post by **OldsRecording** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:19 pm

TMurphy wrote: Interesting point. Part of the utter dislike of the Patriots I think also stems from the fact that the mastermind behind all of the success is Bill Belichek, who comes across as a cold and largely unlikable man. (I can't stand him, but that's because he resigned as head coach of my team after 1 day). I think he turns a lot of people off, and gets them rooting against the Patriots...the videotaping thing made it even worse.

Yes, I know Belichek has all of the warmth and charm of an iguana, and studied press conference procedures with the CIA, but since when has that been a prerequisite for being a successful coach? I don't remember Tom Landry or Vince Lombardi being known for their people skills, yet they are (almost) universally beloved.

PS- found this. Oddly apropos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJHb9m4ccmQ

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:57 pm

Yes, I dislike Dallas, but that's because I'm an old Redskins fan, and if you're a 'Skins fan, hating Dallas is simply part of the equation based on years and years of mutual animosity

Hell, I don't even like professional football (haven't watched a game since Elway left the Broncos) and I HATE Dallas. The world begins and ends for me with NATIONAL League Baseball (the DH is for sissies or fat men past their prime). I am an avid Braves fan, but since TBS isn't going to air their games anymore, the Padres or Dodgers will be the team on my TV on the back patio. Beer and Baseball, nothing says the end of the school year quite like that!!!!!

Chuck"who will more than likely be puttering around the yard on the 3rd while listening to opera"Jackson

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