Yamaha YBB-621 versus Miraphone 190

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:05 pm

Thanks to Rick Denny for posting this for me.

I have an opportunity to purchase one of these two instruments. They are both priced the same, and that's why I'm considering them. I want to use the tuba to play solos, and to accompany a community band, and for quintet. This is the last tuba I will ever buy.

Can someone who has owned both of these for at least two years and played them professionally tell me which would be better for me to buy?

I intend to use a Bach 22 mouthpiece on them, which my teacher gave me. Which of these tubas would be better with a Bach 22 mouthpiece?

Trolls "R" Us

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:47 pm

I know that we are not supposed to comment on spelling, but Trolls mispelled your name. You may not take offense; but I do. Therefore I refuse to answer this question.

David · Post by **David** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:25 pm

I will vouch for the 621 being one of the most responsive, flexible and "easy playing" tubas I have used. Its just a fantastic horn (although the valves can be finiky and there are 1 or 2 wonky notes, specifically the G and C# in the upper register).

Its a good choice for both solos and community, though the YFB-621 would be a better choice.

I would stay away from the 190. Notes tend to lock better on the Yamaha, though I'm sure there are scores of people who would disagree with me.

eupher61 · Post by **eupher61** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:30 pm

um...there's little guarantee that either will really be suitable with any mouthpiece. I'd agree with the 621, but if those are your only options, be sure to give them both a long, hard workout with that mouthpiece. Experience suggests that either or neither will be suitable with the 22, so be prepared to try out several mouthpieces too.

David · Post by **David** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:18 am

what?

SplatterTone · Post by **SplatterTone** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:21 am

what?

I think the 190 has more cleavage.

Ferguson · Post by **Ferguson** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:46 am

Dude,

That's like Bambi versus Godzilla.

The baby tuba versus the Kaiser model.

The Mini-Cooper or the Escalade?

Just a salad or or the all_you_can_eat_rib_platter (with fries)?

Tin of Altoids? Or the Costco jar of pillow mints?

You see where I'm going here...

I'd get the smaller one. I mean, you have to carry the friggin' thing around. You might as well not strain your back for the sake of art, or in speaking about a tuba, for the sake of really loud noises.

Doesn't the little Yamaha come in a compact little case? Me like.

OTOH, buy the one that inspires you. They're completely different animals, as if my point is not already overstated. You have to practice it, and that's always the weak link in the equation - the part about the player doing his homework to master the instrument. If you've ever seen something for sale, and said to yourself, "I_MUST_HAVE_THAT", then think about your feelings for each instrument in that way, and you'll make the right choice. The horn that you absolutely cannot walk by without picking it up to play it a little. That's the one.

But you still have to carry the friggin' thing around.

I'm sold on the Yammie.

SF

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:29 am

I owned a 190BBb and a 621F at the same time. Probably played as many solos on the 190 as I did on the F. C4 mouthpiece works wonders on those big things, no surprise. Mine had a very bright colorful sound with that mouthpiece. Did everything from the Stars & Stripes picc part to Carnival of Venice on it. Don't sell those horns short.

P.S. I guess Rick needs to change his password

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:29 pm

Mark wrote:I know that we are not supposed to comment on spelling, but Trolls mispelled your name. You may not take offense; but I do. Therefore I refuse to answer this question.

Mr. Dinney won't mind if I bogard his account a couple times more.

Hey, I was just expressing an opinion! Last I checked, free speech was a right. I can spell his name any way I want to--it's just my opinion. Cant I ask a simple question without everyone coming down on me? What a jerk! Your one of the reasons why high schoolers don't respect old people.

"R"

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:30 pm

the elephant wrote:Buy the Yamaha. Get the Miraphone for use as a case for the little 621. It ought to fit in the bell quite well. Use lubricant.

Hey, I ALWAYS need lubricant! After all, my teacher told me I have a world class sound!

"R"

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:31 pm

David wrote:I will vouch for the 621 being one of the most responsive, flexible and "easy playing" tubas I have used. Its just a fantastic horn (although the valves can be finiky and there are 1 or 2 wonky notes, specifically the G and C# in the upper register).

Its a good choice for both solos and community, though the YFB-621 would be a better choice.

I would stay away from the 190. Notes tend to lock better on the Yamaha, though I'm sure there are scores of people who would disagree with me.

Have you actually played the 190 professionally? Can you read?

"R"

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:32 pm

DP wrote:

She's hot!

"R"

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:33 pm

MartyNeilan wrote:I owned a 190BBb and a 621F at the same time. Probably played as many solos on the 190 as I did on the F. C4 mouthpiece works wonders on those big things, no surprise. Mine had a very bright colorful sound with that mouthpiece. Did everything from the Stars & Stripes picc part to Carnival of Venice on it. Don't sell those horns short.

P.S. I guess Rick needs to change his password

But did you play both professionally? Can you read?

And Denniy told me I could use his account. So there!!!

"R"

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:36 pm

Okay, folks, this has gone far enough. Sigh. I have changed my password, and we won't be hearing from "R" any more. He didn't have my permission, but you know how that goes. I should go delete those messages, but I don't think I will.

Rick "thinking of a suitable punishment" Denney

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:10 pm

Rick Denney wrote:
Mark wrote:I know that we are not supposed to comment on spelling, but Trolls mispelled your name. You may not take offense; but I do. Therefore I refuse to answer this question.
Mr. Dinney won't mind if I bogard his account a couple times more.

Hey, I was just expressing an opinion! Last I checked, free speech was a right. I can spell his name any way I want to--it's just my opinion. Cant I ask a simple question without everyone coming down on me? What a jerk! Your one of the reasons why high schoolers don't respect old people.

"R"

"R" = Fawn Rainforest?

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:06 pm

Ferguson wrote:Dude,

That's like Bambi versus Godzilla.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAVYYe87b9w

k001k47 · Post by **k001k47** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:55 pm

Was your password really stolen?

This kid also talks like he'd actually be able to play either horn professionally.
Wish I had that kind of confidence...

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:04 pm

k001k47 wrote:Was your password really stolen?

Did I say it was?

Rick "who had indeed given 'R' temporary permission to express himself, but not to say what he said which just came out, and was a little surprised by the results" Denney

Liberty Mo · Post by **Liberty Mo** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:53 pm

Is anyone else really confused?

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:33 pm

Liberty Mo wrote:Is anyone else really confused?

No one more than me.

Rick "confusion is our most important product" Denney

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