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Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
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Re: Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
I played that one in February at The Tuba Euph Conf. in DC... I thought it played very well, but not too much differently than the new Conn 5xJ horns they had at the Exhibit also.
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Re: Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
I also played the Dillon/Conn at the Army conference in February. It played extremely well. I am surprised that it is still for sale.
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Re: Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
I would take a serious look at the Martin/Dillon tuba that hangs out along side the Conn/Dillon at conventions and at the store.
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Re: Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
Funny, since the Conn 5xJ tubas are just chopped Kings, not Conns...Yosef: Tubist wrote:I played that one in February at The Tuba Euph Conf. in DC... I thought it played very well, but not too much differently than the new Conn 5xJ horns they had at the Exhibit also.
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Re: Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
I remember trying both the Conn and the Martin at Dillon's a few months ago. I don't remember details as to why but 1) I was less than impressed with the Martin, and 2) I thought the Conn was good but not outstanding. The horn that REALLY got my juices flowing was the Holton. At $10K it's way pricier, but as I recall it has a great feel to it, and a killer sound with plenty of projection and heft.
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Re: Conn/Dillon Custom CC Info???
I also tried out that horn, as well as the Martin, and, well, just about all the front-valved contra's there (well maybe not ALL).
I really enjoyed both horns and if I was in the market to buy a CC I would have considered it. I believe Matt said that the Conn played too dark for the previous owners taste---HOWEVER---I've no idea why he (the previous owner) came to this conclusion. The Conn didn't seem unusually dark at all, and seeing that most old Conn's really penetrate through anything, I wonder if I'd be worried about this. It was certainly a fun tuba to play on. Having owned a 56J, I'd prefer this tuba.
The 4/4, 5/4, 6/4 business is only a grammatical guideline. I'd say 5/4 for both horns because they play that way FOR ME.
The Conn is a .734 bore with a 20" bell. (a 56J is a .687 w/a 20" bell), (a Meister Walter Nirschl .748 w/a 19"bell=also a REAL FINE TUBA!). The Martin is a .687 w/a 21.5" bell. The 56J does what the Martin does, starts a bit smaller, ends a bit larger. Good concept, if you ask me. Works on the Martin. I believe many prefer the 54J 19" bell, however. So much for cerebral concepts.
Good luck, Patrick,
ps. btw, the Holton was indeed really nice, but I'd really qualify it as a 6/4 the way it plays.
I really enjoyed both horns and if I was in the market to buy a CC I would have considered it. I believe Matt said that the Conn played too dark for the previous owners taste---HOWEVER---I've no idea why he (the previous owner) came to this conclusion. The Conn didn't seem unusually dark at all, and seeing that most old Conn's really penetrate through anything, I wonder if I'd be worried about this. It was certainly a fun tuba to play on. Having owned a 56J, I'd prefer this tuba.
The 4/4, 5/4, 6/4 business is only a grammatical guideline. I'd say 5/4 for both horns because they play that way FOR ME.
The Conn is a .734 bore with a 20" bell. (a 56J is a .687 w/a 20" bell), (a Meister Walter Nirschl .748 w/a 19"bell=also a REAL FINE TUBA!). The Martin is a .687 w/a 21.5" bell. The 56J does what the Martin does, starts a bit smaller, ends a bit larger. Good concept, if you ask me. Works on the Martin. I believe many prefer the 54J 19" bell, however. So much for cerebral concepts.
Good luck, Patrick,
ps. btw, the Holton was indeed really nice, but I'd really qualify it as a 6/4 the way it plays.