Hi-
Is it a CC or BBb? 4 valve or 5 valve? You say c. 1962--what is the serial #? You should have NO problem selling a vintage 186--I know several folks looking--email me direct if you'd like.
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Selling question
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Re: Selling question
Tuba Exchange's house branded horns are made in China.
Haven't tried the TE tubas, but have tried the euphs: they're decent players, so
assuming the quality of materials and workmanship are up to snuff, they're probably not bad for the money. Double-check and verify specs to make sure everything's as advertised, though: the shank on the TE euph, for example, is smaller than the standard large shank, but larger than the euro shank. My large shank Schilke 52E2 and their demo Miraphone BT-17 stick out about 1/4" farther on TE euphs than they does on my Sterling Virtuoso or Besson New Standard, the TE mpc bottoms out against the end of the leadpipe on both of my horns before the sides of the shank contacts the receiver, and their demo BB1 bottoms out in the TE euphs.
A few things to bear in mind when considering a vendor-branded horn:
• the warranty's only good if the vendor's around to provide service: if the vendor goes belly up, you're hosed;
• for the forseeable future, at least, you're likely to only be able to get spare or replacement parts from the vendor;
• you'll likely have to take/ship the horn to the vendor for warranty service: if you don't live close by, that can be a costly proposition, esp. if you have to pay shipping both ways;
• if you're not local to the vendor, make sure your local go-to repair tech/shop will work on Chinese-made horns: although the quality of Chinese-made horns is improving, the poor quality and shoddy workmanship of early Chinese-made horns led many shops to refuse to work on them.
Haven't tried the TE tubas, but have tried the euphs: they're decent players, so
assuming the quality of materials and workmanship are up to snuff, they're probably not bad for the money. Double-check and verify specs to make sure everything's as advertised, though: the shank on the TE euph, for example, is smaller than the standard large shank, but larger than the euro shank. My large shank Schilke 52E2 and their demo Miraphone BT-17 stick out about 1/4" farther on TE euphs than they does on my Sterling Virtuoso or Besson New Standard, the TE mpc bottoms out against the end of the leadpipe on both of my horns before the sides of the shank contacts the receiver, and their demo BB1 bottoms out in the TE euphs.
A few things to bear in mind when considering a vendor-branded horn:
• the warranty's only good if the vendor's around to provide service: if the vendor goes belly up, you're hosed;
• for the forseeable future, at least, you're likely to only be able to get spare or replacement parts from the vendor;
• you'll likely have to take/ship the horn to the vendor for warranty service: if you don't live close by, that can be a costly proposition, esp. if you have to pay shipping both ways;
• if you're not local to the vendor, make sure your local go-to repair tech/shop will work on Chinese-made horns: although the quality of Chinese-made horns is improving, the poor quality and shoddy workmanship of early Chinese-made horns led many shops to refuse to work on them.
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Re: Selling question
Actually, ST, I received a "thank you" PM from 5thvalve, which is not typical behavior of a troll. Also,Scooby Tuba wrote:Troll...
based on the addt'l info about TE, he's sticking with his 186. Sounds to me like a returning player who's been out of the loop for a while rather than a troll. (Hey, this time last year, I was just picking up my euph again after a 28-year layoff and wasn't even aware that TE existed, even though I've lived <5 miles from the place since I moved here in 2000.
So ... right back at ya, Scooby.
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Re: Selling question
Hi-
5th valve's horn is a BBb--he is a good guy.
This kills me to say this, but I know of one brand of Chinese horns--at least pro trombones and trumpets, that is actually very good--it is a brand called 'Eastman.' Their pro line trumpets, and especially pro line trombones--esp. the axial flow trombone, is very, very good. Again, I can't believe it, but it is true. If you do any tenor trombone playing, check out the Eastman brand axial flow tenor trombone. For the $$, it is a sweet deal (BTW, Eastman has nothing to do with the school--just an instrument brand name).
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mark
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5th valve's horn is a BBb--he is a good guy.
This kills me to say this, but I know of one brand of Chinese horns--at least pro trombones and trumpets, that is actually very good--it is a brand called 'Eastman.' Their pro line trumpets, and especially pro line trombones--esp. the axial flow trombone, is very, very good. Again, I can't believe it, but it is true. If you do any tenor trombone playing, check out the Eastman brand axial flow tenor trombone. For the $$, it is a sweet deal (BTW, Eastman has nothing to do with the school--just an instrument brand name).
Regards-
mark
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Re: Selling question
last Wed. I was present at the retail sale of an Eastman/Shire trombone. Yep, pretty nice, I'd played that one before, and it was properly chosen over a rotor 88H.
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Re: Selling question
Good call.sungfw wrote:...he's sticking with his 186.
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