Who would you commission?

The bulk of the musical talk
User avatar
timdicarlo
bugler
bugler
Posts: 132
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:12 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by timdicarlo »

It's a little off the beaten path, but I'd go to Tomas Kalnoky. No doubt.

And if he's not free, I'd reanimate Frank Zappa (Frankenstein Zappa? Sorry, that's lame), just to see what he'd do with it.
User avatar
Rick Denney
Resident Genius
Posts: 6650
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:18 am
Contact:

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by Rick Denney »

tubajoe wrote:I'd add Alvin Lucier, Roscoe Mitchell, "Blue" Gene Tyranny, Phillip Glass, Russell Peck, Pauline Oliveros, Stuart Dempster, Meridith Monk
I thought about Glass, whose work I admire, but I suspect that circular breathing would figure prominently in anything he did. Plus, i don't see him as a composer of solo works. The sounds he produces always seem to require integration into the whole to make any sense, which would subdue the soloist and make the work a pure ensemble piece. I figured Reich would be the same, except that Desert Music seems to me a departure from his and Glass's music-as-process roots.

When Jay Rozen arranged the commission of a work from Virgil Thompson, I recall that the price was in the handful of thousands of dollars, and that was in the early 80's. And Jay Rozen: Portrait and Fugue is anything but a concerto-length work.

Rick "who'd like to see something composed by a really high-end composer within the technical grasp of common amateurs" Denney
User avatar
Wyvern
Wessex Tubas
Wessex Tubas
Posts: 5033
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:00 pm
Location: Hampshire, England when not travelling around the world on Wessex business
Contact:

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by Wyvern »

John Rutter - it would be lyrical
User avatar
MartyNeilan
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 4878
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:06 am
Location: Practicing counting rests.

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by MartyNeilan »

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.

Philip Glass.
tubajoe
pro musician
pro musician
Posts: 589
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:51 pm
Location: NYC
Contact:

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by tubajoe »

Rick Denney wrote:who'd like to see something composed by a really high-end composer within the technical grasp of common amateurs
Agreed!
"When you control sound, you control meat." -Arnold Jacobs
User avatar
tubafatness
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 543
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:12 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by tubafatness »

Tubadork wrote: Charles Wuorinen
Unless you would like a new work, this wish has already been fulfilled. There is a chamber concerto, as well as a piece that is concerto in everything but name. I'm not a particular big fan of the chamber concerto, and I don't believe the other piece has been recorded. But, he is a big name composer, and it is good that people of his stature are writing works for the tuba.

I just now thought of another name to consider: Gavin Bryars. Go this site and listen to the excerpt of his Double Bass Concerto-http://www.myspace.com/gavinbryarsmusic.

Aaron
"There are places in music that you can only go if you're an idiot."--Tom Waits
eupher61
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2790
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:37 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by eupher61 »

Rick Denney wrote: When Jay Rozen arranged the commission of a work from Virgil Thompson, I recall that the price was in the handful of thousands of dollars, and that was in the early 80's. And Jay Rozen: Portrait and Fugue is anything but a concerto-length work.
hmmm...we had Mr Thomson (no p) as a special guest at UMKC--he had attended the old Kansas City Conservatory--in the fall of '80, and he said he hadn't composed anything in a number of years and really didn't want to**. No wonder it was big bucks, and short! But, short was his style too.

**Part of it probably was his severe deafness, and all-but-total immobility.
User avatar
ZNC Dandy
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 742
Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:59 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by ZNC Dandy »

Michael Giacchino, Esa-Pekka Salonen, Kalevi Aho, Kryzstof Penderecki, Philip Sparke, Derek Bourgeois, Steve Winteregg. I'll also chip in for the re-animation of Frank Zappa.
tubashaman2
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 713
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:03 am

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by tubashaman2 »

.
Last edited by tubashaman2 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Miraphone 1291CC
PT 10S (Made in East Germany, GDR)
YFB 621S
User avatar
windshieldbug
Once got the "hand" as a cue
Once got the "hand" as a cue
Posts: 11516
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:41 pm
Location: 8vb

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by windshieldbug »

tubashaman2 wrote:Michael Daugherty
My wife has had a piece commissioned with him for two years, with no results so far.
Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would they still grow, but only to be troubled and insecure?
LARSONTUBA
3 valves
3 valves
Posts: 273
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:27 pm
Location: DeLand, FL
Contact:

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by LARSONTUBA »

I am really just agreeing with what has already been stated, but my thoughts are:

Esa-Pekka Salonen, John Corigliano (this would probably be incredibly challenging i.e. clarinet concerto), John Adams (I agree that a sonata or smaller scale work would be pretty cool from him), Michael Tillson Thomas ( I do like Street Song)

I also would like to hear something from Miles Davis in his Bitches Brew era.
Birth of the Cool satisfies to a certain extent, but Bitches Brew is really good stuff.

I would also like to have another piece my Barry McKimm. His first concerto is such a good piece that I would like to see a McKimm Tuba Concerto No. 2 floating around.

Just my $0.02

Andy Larson
Andy Larson-DMA
---
Professor of Low Brass, Seminole State College
Paramedic Intern, Seminole State College
ED Tech, Halifax Med. Ctr.
Vol. Fire Police, Volusia County Fire Rescue
Tuba teacher, performer, composer, artist
http://www.vimeo.com/larsontuba
User avatar
Tubadork
pro musician
pro musician
Posts: 1312
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:06 pm
Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by Tubadork »

tubafatness wrote:
Tubadork wrote: Charles Wuorinen
Unless you would like a new work, this wish has already been fulfilled. There is a chamber concerto, as well as a piece that is concerto in everything but name. I'm not a particular big fan of the chamber concerto, and I don't believe the other piece has been recorded. But, he is a big name composer, and it is good that people of his stature are writing works for the tuba.

I just now thought of another name to consider: Gavin Bryars. Go this site and listen to the excerpt of his Double Bass Concerto-http://www.myspace.com/gavinbryarsmusic.

Aaron
yep, I was thinking of a fall scale concerto. I know the chamber concerto, I almost decided to program it, but thought better of it, I don't know the other piece you are talking about. The only other piece that I know of that had tuba in it was the trio for low instruments for tuba, bass trombone and double bass, which I have the score to somewhere.

But, Gavin Bryars, not a bad idea, hopefully it wouldn't involve the soloists being dunked into a tank of water while playing it. :lol:

Bill
Without inner peace, outer peace is impossible.

Huttl for life
User avatar
tubafatness
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 543
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:12 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by tubafatness »

Tubadork wrote:
tubafatness wrote:
Tubadork wrote: Charles Wuorinen
Unless you would like a new work, this wish has already been fulfilled. There is a chamber concerto, as well as a piece that is concerto in everything but name. I'm not a particular big fan of the chamber concerto, and I don't believe the other piece has been recorded. But, he is a big name composer, and it is good that people of his stature are writing works for the tuba.

I just now thought of another name to consider: Gavin Bryars. Go this site and listen to the excerpt of his Double Bass Concerto-http://www.myspace.com/gavinbryarsmusic.

Aaron
yep, I was thinking of a fall scale concerto. I know the chamber concerto, I almost decided to program it, but thought better of it, I don't know the other piece you are talking about. The only other piece that I know of that had tuba in it was the trio for low instruments for tuba, bass trombone and double bass, which I have the score to somewhere.

But, Gavin Bryars, not a bad idea, hopefully it wouldn't involve the soloists being dunked into a tank of water while playing it. :lol:

Bill
The other piece I mentioned is entitled "Prelude to Kullervo", and the description from Mr. Wuorinen's website says it is a "Concerto for tuba and orchestra. Commissioned by Howard Shanet for the Columbia University Orchestra." Sounds interesting.
"There are places in music that you can only go if you're an idiot."--Tom Waits
tubajoe
pro musician
pro musician
Posts: 589
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:51 pm
Location: NYC
Contact:

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by tubajoe »

Come on you guys....lets get real:

Bootsy Collins
Tom Waits
Lemmy Kilmister
David Byrne
"When you control sound, you control meat." -Arnold Jacobs
eupher61
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2790
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:37 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by eupher61 »

but, with a Bootsy piece, there'd have to be several dozen people on stage...even if they aren't playing an instrument...
User avatar
BVD Press
TubeNet Sponsor
TubeNet Sponsor
Posts: 1588
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:11 pm
Location: CT

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by BVD Press »

bigpapajon wrote: How do you go about approaching these composers? I would be more-than-willing to draft a letter to Mr. Adams, but if you have an approach that hwas been effective in the past, I would love to hear it.
I have always just found a phone number and called. My only real advice would be to make sure you know you would like to ask before calling.

Take care,
User avatar
Mojo workin'
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 784
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:44 pm
Location: made of teflon, behind the bull's eye

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by Mojo workin' »

Come on you guys....lets get real:

Bootsy Collins
Tom Waits
Lemmy Kilmister
David Byrne
We have a winner, folks!

If only tuba had been a part of the music of these chaps. Though, I don't know of Bootsy Collins.
Tubanese
bugler
bugler
Posts: 88
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:19 pm

Re: Who would you commission?

Post by Tubanese »

Philip Sparke, Jan Van der Roost, and Eric Ewazen.
Meinl Weston 2165(Prototype)
Meinl Weston 45SLZ
Meinl Weston Bill Bell Model(Original)
Holton 345
Holton "Monster Bb"
Post Reply