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Found these samples on my disk. Maybe there are more.
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petter@brasseriet.no wrote: Greetings from a happy MW Travel-Tuba owner!
Can you post comments or sound clips of the instrument? It'd be very cool to hear one of these (I've only heard one clip, but the bell was removed :-( )

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petter@brasseriet.no wrote:You are not forced to buy it, but you have the opportunity to!
Very true! People are far too willing to criticise, even if they have never tried one. Like anything with a small potential market, the price is going to be high, as research and development costs are spread over only a few units.

It sounds a nice little tuba to get, if either you can justify through your travelling lifestyle, or are affluent enough to get for the shear fun of it.

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The tornister examples seem to have a far more dramatically tapered bugle, larger bell and shorter leadpipe taper when compared to the new Travel F. Were they ever made in F or Eb? Do any of you know the specs for any of these horns?
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Mike-ICR wrote:The tornister examples seem to have a far more dramatically tapered bugle, larger bell and shorter leadpipe taper when compared to the new Travel F. Were they ever made in F or Eb? Do any of you know the specs for any of these horns?
The 3 samples from my disk all are in tenor Bb, which would call for a later bell expansion. All have the leadpipes going via the main tuning slides near the bottom bows into the 3rd rotors.

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imperialbari wrote:
Mike-ICR wrote:The tornister examples seem to have a far more dramatically tapered bugle, larger bell and shorter leadpipe taper when compared to the new Travel F. Were they ever made in F or Eb? Do any of you know the specs for any of these horns?
The 3 samples from my disk all are in tenor Bb, which would call for a later bell expansion. All have the leadpipes going via the main tuning slides near the bottom bows into the 3rd rotors.

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Sorry, I was unclear. Although your examples share some of the characteristics to which I refer, I was specifically referring to the earlier posted tornister tubas. The leadpipe travels almost straight down into the tuning slide and it doesn't look like the slide is tapered. The Travel F has the leadpipe traveling across the bell and most of the body before turning downward.

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Here's a BBb tornister. This looks very similar to the one Mr. Tucci is marketing:
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Here's a tornister baritone from the same source:
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Bob1062 wrote:Yeah, but for 6 grand you could bribe/pay someone to unload your horn and find you a room to practice QUITE a lot of times. Probably at least 20 years worth
Maybe, but if a pro, you might well be able to persuade your orchestra to buy one of these as capital expenditure, but they would not pay for bribes/tips as you suggest.

That is the way business works :wink:
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Bob1062 wrote:
Neptune wrote:That is the way business works :wink:
Where, in Candyland?!? :D
Just my experience as manager in a large company for 26 years where capital expenditure was easy to get approved, but even small amounts of expenses would often be argued over.

To a top orchestra paying good money for a tubist, the cost of this travel tuba would be small beer if they think it will improve performance standards while on tour.
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Bob1062 wrote:
Neptune wrote:That is the way business works :wink:
Where, in Candyland?!? :D
BTW: Have you bought a horn yet?
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The Big Ben wrote:
Bob1062 wrote:
Neptune wrote:That is the way business works :wink:
Where, in Candyland?!? :D
BTW: Have you bought a horn yet?
Good one!!!
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Bob1062 wrote:And really, if tuba players not being able to warm up on stuff they've played for 20 years or so is SUCH a problem, then big time orchestras WOULD find a way around this (like my above mentioned money idea)!
Actually, it _is_ a problem...

First, you have to remember that the way these players become and stay great is because they PRACTICE. They warm up. They're in prime physical condition for playing. And that takes maintenance and work. But the fellers in the trucks have orders, contracts, and problems grabbing your 100lb shipping crate out of the truck or airplane just so you can warm up. They want to keep the contract. And... it's just not cool to offer a bribe (or take it).

Second, big time orchestras haven't really had a solution to this problem. I've seen the Cleveland Orchestras Tuba crate - you'd soil yourself over its size. It a monster! Just tossing it off the truck isn't really an easy option. And there's probably a Union involved. It's the price for transporting your regular ax safely.

Now, it seems there is a solution. And it may not be great for practicing your Prokofiev, but your daily routines and warm-ups, etudes, etc. can be well practiced and ready to go for the music you have indeed already practiced for the concert. It's innovative. A tornister is too (way cool!) but I think the flatter case which can be carried on or checked is a fantastic idea.

I go on a one week vacation to the mountains every year. The one thing which is a real challenge is maintaining my chops. My Hyundai with my family and everything we bring leaves room - sorta - for a flugelbone (sans case!). That's it. But I'd make room for this!

But admittedly, someone would have to fill my wallet first :-)

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I go on a one week vacation to the mountains every year. The one thing which is a real challenge is maintaining my chops. My Hyundai with my family and everything we bring leaves room - sorta - for a flugelbone (sans case!). That's it. But I'd make room for this!
Hmmmm... Hyundais can be small... One of those Getzen/DEG 'commuter tubas' with the detachable bell might do the trick. Might be easy to squeeze the separate cases in places.

I wonder if a pro could amortize the cost of a travel F/tornister over a few years like companies do with equipment. A business deduction might make this affordable.

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I could see that BBb version as being great for street busking and jug band sorts of groups - easy to get around on public transit (or even a bicycle) and the sound would not be so "large" as to cause too many balance problems for un-amped or mini-amped combos.

Problems with up-front costs might shoot down that idea, however. I don't think many street musicians have a spare $5K to drop on such a toy - maybe if the price was $1K or so...
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David Richoux wrote:I could see that BBb version as being great for street busking and jug band sorts of groups - easy to get around on public transit (or even a bicycle) and the sound would not be so "large" as to cause too many balance problems for un-amped or mini-amped combos.
I have a Mira 1270 3v starter horn I'm going to use in such a mode. I'll have about $500 in it and could have gotten by paying less. It's about 30-32" tall and built stout.

But I *still* would like a Tornister!
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The Big Ben wrote:
I have a Mira 1270 3v starter horn I'm going to use in such a mode. I'll have about $500 in it and could have gotten by paying less. It's about 30-32" tall and built stout.

But I *still* would like a Tornister!
I often use my Distin Eb 3v in those situations, it is quite skinny and relatively easy to get around, but it is at least 100 years old and kind of fragile for lots of "street use." It sounds OK for what it is... (better tone than a Jug, anyway :)
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David Richoux wrote:
The Big Ben wrote:
I have a Mira 1270 3v starter horn I'm going to use in such a mode. I'll have about $500 in it and could have gotten by paying less. It's about 30-32" tall and built stout.

But I *still* would like a Tornister!
I often use my Distin Eb 3v in those situations, it is quite skinny and relatively easy to get around, but it is at least 100 years old and kind of fragile for lots of "street use." It sounds OK for what it is... (better tone than a Jug, anyway :)
Man, those Distins...

When they're in good shape... they can't be beet for sound! And they're usually lovely too!

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J.c. Sherman wrote:
David Richoux wrote:
I often use my Distin Eb 3v in those situations, it is quite skinny and relatively easy to get around, but it is at least 100 years old and kind of fragile for lots of "street use." It sounds OK for what it is... (better tone than a Jug, anyway :)
Man, those Distins...

When they're in good shape... they can't be beet for sound! And they're usually lovely too!

J.c.S.
This is what mine looks like - a bit narrower than any other Distin I saw on the Horn-u-copia site.
Distin-Eb-tuba.jpg
but it looks a bit like this one: (Distin Variant?) http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments ... b-Tuba.jpg
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You're right - never seen one like that before!

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