"...asking price is certainly fair"

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Re: "...asking price is certainly fair"

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The exclusive one.

Demand. 8D's are a dime a dozen, (and one MIGHT come up for a dime), while with the boutique maker there, it's pretty obvious if you want one, not only is it less than the cost of new, but you won't have to wait for one to be made (if nothing happens to the maker... ).

Supply and demand.
The same lesson GM should have learned with the Hummer, but didn't. Once everyone who could AFFORD ONE had one, how many more of those fragile gas-guzzlers were they likely to sell?
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Re: "...asking price is certainly fair"

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bloke wrote:

- One horn is a common and commonly sought-after model. A person can obtain the model brand-new for $3250. The good-used version is headed off to the convention priced at $1850 w/the original case.

- The other horn is a boutique model hand-made horn of a make only known to the chattiest of the chatty on the horn internet chat sites. It costs $6800 brand-new, and the maker will be at the convention with his brand-new horns for sale. The good-used one is priced at $6000 (no case).

...Which one of the two horns above is mostly likely to sell, and why?

(This isn't a trick question.)
The first one will be more likely to sell than the second.

Not knowing any specifics (which could be important), the first one, at 56% of new price, is a deal (assuming it is in fine condition). The first instrument is also in a price range where it can be purchased without a second thought by a larger number of people than the second instrument. The number people that will have access to $2000 is greater than the number of people who have access to $6000. $2000 is a relatively low limit on a credit card, so pretty much anybody could "afford it". There are likely plenty of these on the market and it needs to be in nice condition and competitive on price to sell. It's the horn equivalent of a 186.

The second one is too expensive compared to the price of new (88% of the new price). A new one can probably be had for the price of the used one, especially if the maker is aware of the used one for sale and is willing to deal a bit. If the maker allows the used one to sell rather than cut price on his new models (in other words, have a conference-only sale), he is a fool.

Personally, if I can't save at least 15% (where 15% is AT LEAST $1000) I'll buy new.
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Re: "...asking price is certainly fair"

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cjk wrote:If the maker allows the used one to sell rather than cut price on his new models (in other words, have a conference-only sale), he is a fool.
No, then he'd be SMART. Since he is a boutique maker, he'd much rather have the used one SELL at that price, thus justifying him raising HIS prices on the few that he does make, since they're obviously worth so much, even used! :shock: :D

(sidebar: how do they both play?)
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Re: "...asking price is certainly fair"

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The less expensive one.
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It's all about who's there looking for what and willing to spend what.
There could be hundreds of people selling 8D's, but only one with the custom, and it could be that someone has been looking for that model for a long time
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Re: "...asking price is certainly fair"

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Well....I had in my possession three pro level double horns back when I was buying my first (and last) good horn. I had a Reynolds Contempora that was a great horn to play; I stole it for $800 out of someone's closet and spent $20 getting the bell straightened. I also had a Yamaha 861, that I paid $2500 for. And I bought a then-little-known-but-now-very-well-known "boutique" horn. I was the first one to answer when the owner offered it for sale on the horn list.

I kept the boutique horn and sold the other two. The Reynolds was painful to play because it required a very large left hand to operate the valves well. The Yammie for some reason never did ring my chimes. The boutique horn was and is a joy to play physically; it slots just right, with a Lawson bell has a wonderful sound, and it is scaled for small hands.

So....my answer is, it depends on who is buying.

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So....did either of them sell?

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