The band ruined a football player's life

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Tubaryan12 wrote:I guess I'm just lucky. I went to Tuskegee Institute (University, now) and people actually came to the games to see the band. :tuba:

Nothing like hearing the crowd chant "Tuba Funk, Tuba Funk, Tuba Funk" over and over again as you march into the stadium.

Yeah, it was worth it.

btw...my high school was pretty much the same way. Half the crowd left after half time.
Of course, this isn't any better then everyone ignoring the band and only watching football. They're both wrapped up into the experience. Yes, that doesn't mean that everyone will be overjoyed for both, but damn......leaving after the band plays? That's pretty disrespectful.
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Someone playing sports got hurt? Imagine that...


Shouldn't the issue be:

1.) Is there a rule that states the minimum distance things can be placed from the out-of-bounds line?

1a.) If so was the rule broken?

1b.) If not, what about adding a rule to help prevent this in the future?

OR

2.) How far out of bounds must a player be before he/she forfeits any reason to blame someone for something not happening on the field (i.e. in bounds)?




I seem to remember something in the past like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foGHh14uvKk" target="_blank

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As I recall, Ohio State coach Woody Hayes was fired in 1978 after having a temper tantrum during the Gator Bowl against Clemson and striking a Clemson linebacker named Charlie Bauman after intercepting a pass to clinch the game for the Tigers as well as two of his own players. I guess the even the sidelines aren't out of bounds far enough... :shock: :D
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TexTuba wrote:

That article is very biased and the player seems quite the whiner.

i have to agree with TexTuba for a football player he seems like a baby...Think he cried to his mom about the band? :D
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For further reading, Dodd responds to some of the comments: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11876890
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THE TUBA wrote:For further reading, Dodd responds to some of the comments: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11876890
Ol' doofus still doesn't get it, does he? Pathetic ... :lol:
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windshieldbug wrote:As I recall, Ohio State coach Woody Hayes was fired in 1978 after having a temper tantrum during the Gator Bowl against Clemson and striking a Clemson linebacker named Charlie Bauman after intercepting a pass to clinch the game for the Tigers as well as two of his own players. I guess the even the sidelines aren't out of bounds far enough... :shock: :D
Well, a deliberate roundhouse punch in the face (and Hayes was standing on the field of play at the time) is a little different from an equipment cart 6 or 7 yards behind the back side of the end zone.

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Kevin Hendrick wrote:
THE TUBA wrote:For further reading, Dodd responds to some of the comments: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11876890
Ol' doofus still doesn't get it, does he? Pathetic ... :lol:
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Rick Denney wrote:
Kevin Hendrick wrote:
THE TUBA wrote:For further reading, Dodd responds to some of the comments: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11876890
Ol' doofus still doesn't get it, does he? Pathetic ... :lol:
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Good point. :wink:
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Rick Denney wrote:Rick "not seeing the equivalency here" Denney
No equivalency, just the observation that some things can NEVER be stored far enough OFF the field to avoid being part of the play and potential injury causers... :wink:
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Who would this guy sue if he ran off the sidelines and slammed into the players' bench?

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lgb&dtuba wrote:Who would this guy sue if he ran off the sidelines and slammed into the players' bench?
He could sue his personal injury lawyer for not anticipating that this could happen (his own gross negligence) and not running his route with him, with papers to sign before he passes out (npi) from the pain.
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This Dodd fellow's "writing" reminds me why I dislike the internet at times. In order to create "content" many web sources, even ones that would appear to be big-time network affiliated, seek out writers with little true compositional ability but with the ability to smack-talk and fling insults. This creates user-derived content, which is both "free" and has longer legs.

Sure this Dodd fellow uses strawmen relentlessly to "prove" his points. As long as people fall for it he will continue.
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Dennis Dodd is clearly being unprofessional with his assertions. I really wanted to send him a response but I decided against it seeing as how he seems to enjoy pissing off "band geeks". There's no point in fanning the flames here....

But, if you look up the rules (which I'm relying on another person's search so don't quote this as 100% fact), it's the officials' job to see hazards on the sideline or just off the field of play and address them...not the band's fault if that is indeed the case. Seems like if anyone were going to "blame" anyone it would be the officials...but really this player just needs to own up to hurting himself. I played football in high school and got hurt by other people but I didn't blame them. You expect to get hurt when you play football and you sign a contract saying you won't hold the school responsible if you die or anything like that...it's expected that you're gonna get hurt!
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Arkietuba wrote:I really wanted to send him a response but I decided against it seeing as how he seems to enjoy pissing off "band geeks". There's no point in fanning the flames here....
Taking it to him is more than fanning flames, it's more like trying to burn a fire. The roaring campfire doesn't notice when someone throws in a match, and the match is fully consumed almost instantly.

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the elephant wrote:Well, I need to be going. I have to get to the store and the gas station. But before I leave I need to take me a great, big Dodd.
Hope he all came out OK ... :wink:
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This may have gotten lost in the bile that is Dennis Dodd's writing style, but what bothered me most about this article is the fact that the athlete himself is WAITING until after this season to decide whether or not to pursue legal action. Apparently, his rehab was nothing short of miraculous and the kid is ready to take the field and pick up right where he left off. So, if he has a sophomore slump - he blames it on the Marshall Band and sues them? He's going to get WAY more coverage than he deserves this season and every time he catches a pass, we're going to have to hear about the injury, the circumstances, etc...

I guess a free education isn't enough for this kid...
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