YFB 822--A Solo horn?

David · Post by **David** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:59 am

the YFB 822 I think would be better for a 6/4 horn. I find it pretty big for an F.

tubashaman2 · Post by **tubashaman2** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:17 am

jhickmott · Post by **jhickmott** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:02 am

Gut is saying firebird, but I am scared I will sound like Bobo on it like I do with my little 180F.....which I am scared of

If you ever sound like Bobo on anything, don't stop what you are doing.

jeopardymaster · Post by **jeopardymaster** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:17 am

I'd give my right n*t to sound like Roger Bobo.

Both to sound like Chester Schmitz.

ginnboonmiller · Post by **ginnboonmiller** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:19 am

I remember getting a lesson with Dave Fedderly one time. He didn't like my mouthpiece. "Here, try this." I tried it. "Huh. Okay, try this one." Again, "huh." After a few minutes playing with gear, he said, "well. I guess you picked the right mouthpiece for you in the first place."

Moral of the story, James, is that it's time to stop asking us about what you want and go play some tubas and see what they do for you. The Yamaha YFB-822 plays like a YFB-822. Might be the perfect thing for your solo career. Might be the final nail in the coffin of tuba obscurity. I don't know. Play one.

J Stowe · Post by **J Stowe** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:03 pm

Gene and Carole make this horn work amazingly as a solo horn; but then again, I'm quite positive they can make anything sound beautiful.

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:10 pm

"the instrument doesn't make the music ... you do".
~Victor Wooten

jonesbrass · Post by **jonesbrass** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:30 pm

MartyNeilan wrote:"the instrument doesn't make the music ... you do".

Preach it, brother!

Matt G · Post by **Matt G** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:45 pm

Here is an excellent reference:

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp ... e=8.559378

Chris Olka with Seattle. You can listen to some short clips if you become a member of the Naxos website (free, no spam).

However, every tuba is able to be a "solo" tuba given the right context. I would think that a YFB-822 is a bit big if your CC is going to be a 1291.

tubashaman2 · Post by **tubashaman2** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:49 pm

J Stowe · Post by **J Stowe** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:04 pm

I could be wrong, but I am almost certain that he had one several years ago at a Mid-West tuba/euph conference in which Carole also played a recital on a YFB 822 as well. Almost positive.. I'll have to ask others that were there and may remember.

Biggs · Post by **Biggs** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:53 pm

I am not a YFB-822 owner, but I do attend a solo recital featuring that tuba approximately once a semester. I think it is an excellent solo instrument because it has a very characteristic tuba timbre (not just for an F tuba...for any type of tuba) - something an average audience might expect to hear at a tuba recital.

If you think judges and critics want a more characteristic tuba sound, then maybe the 822 is the ticket. I think, however, that anyone who tries to criticize you by comparing you to Roger Bobo is misguided and under-informed and I would not place much stock in their opinion as a result.

tubashaman2 · Post by **tubashaman2** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:22 pm

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:30 pm

tubashaman2 wrote:About the Bobo sound, whenever I send a recording (or my Vaughan WIlliams from my myspace) on my tiny F, I get "your sound is bright and you sound like Roger Bobo", and I am afraid that is not going to win falcone or ITEC competitions unless he is the head judge.....

I will travel to WWBW right when I get to Ohio....

And Gene Pokorny played a 822? I thought he had a B&S F, then switched to a gronitz, sold his gronitz to a friend of mine, then bought a firebird, and is going to buy the Petruscka

I own a B&S F, and it's a good one. I still suck.

I play a Miraphone not much different from what Roger Bobo played. I still suck.

I have a Holton 345 in the same league as the one played by John Fletcher. I still suck.

My York Master was played in the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra by Chris Hall. I still suck.

I have always loved playing my YFB-621, which isn't much different from the version that Bobo has been playing more recently. I still suck.

Pokorny has played all of the F tubas, and he doesn't suck on any of them.

I think I see some TRVTH starting to emerge here.

Rick "wondering if 'you sound like Bobo' is similar to 'you have a world-class sound'" Denney

tubashaman2 · Post by **tubashaman2** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:45 pm

ztuba · Post by **ztuba** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:18 pm

get a norwegian star, it plays just as big in the low register (actually maybe a little bigger), the valve throw is way fast, the high register is more slotted for delicate stuff, and it doesn't matter what CC tuba you are using.

Todd S. Malicoate · Post by **Todd S. Malicoate** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:54 pm

tubashaman2 wrote:I have seen several posts on here and from others how they are not a fan of Bobo's playing tone wise, and when they say I sound like Bobo, it seems kind of offensive to me.....and plus if I want to record a CD one day, if I expect to sell a CD I have to give people what they want.

NO ONE can record a CD featuring the tuba and sell it these days - not even the largest names in our business make anything on their recordings. Record a CD if you want to, but get any idea about it "selling" out of your naïve head now. The people don't want solo tuba recordings. If you'll read the "What you listen to" thread you'll notice that nearly all TUBA PLAYERS on this forum don't even list tuba solo recordings among their favorites.

I'm deeply saddened that you feel offended when someone says you "sound like Bobo." I would guess that most of the people who have said this to you mean it in a positive way...many of them probably are just "throwing out a name" that they are familiar with, anyway. I've heard your acidplanet recordings and I don't think you sound like Bobo at all. That man had true virtuosic command of the tuba and could absolutely say what he wanted to with a phrase...you struggle with accuracy and pitch as do the vast majority of us mere mortals.

If you don't like the brightness of your sound, practice darkening it by dropping your jaw more and thus enlarging the "resonance box" of your embouchure. A YFB-822 would certainly make you sound darker, as well...it's a very large-bore F and will have a correspondingly darker timbre compared to your relatively small-bore 180.

As to what horn would make a good companion to your 1291, I don't see where that matters a fig. All that matters is how you sound on the tuba you're playing on at the time no matter how many other instruments you own. I'm not a big believer that you need a large-bore and a small-bore tuba to "cover" everything...just learn to sound great on what you have.

Master the 1291 and the 180 and save your $$$ for the expenses of being on your own in a strange place with very little earning potential...you'll need it. Take it from someone who's "been there, done that" more than once. For God's sake, don't take out huge loans for a new "toy" while in grad school!!!

tubashaman2 · Post by **tubashaman2** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:07 pm

Kory101 · Post by **Kory101** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:19 pm

James,

Stop picking fights.

Go play an 822 if you want one.

Go practice.

That is all.

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